From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>
Cc: hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@suse.com, yosry.ahmed@linux.dev,
muchun.song@linux.dev, yuzhao@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 1/3] mm: add swappiness=max arg to memory.reclaim for only anon reclaim
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 19:09:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250409190933.3f08db6d6c1f13bc14a170f9@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <720e8e2c5b84efed5cf9980567794e7c799d179a.1744169302.git.hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 15:06:18 +0800 Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com> wrote:
> With this patch 'commit <68cd9050d871> ("mm: add swappiness= arg to
> memory.reclaim")', we can submit an additional swappiness=<val> argument
> to memory.reclaim. It is very useful because we can dynamically adjust
> the reclamation ratio based on the anonymous folios and file folios of
> each cgroup. For example,when swappiness is set to 0, we only reclaim
> from file folios.
>
> However,we have also encountered a new issue: when swappiness is set to
> the MAX_SWAPPINESS, it may still only reclaim file folios.
>
> So, we hope to add a new arg 'swappiness=max' in memory.reclaim where
> proactive memory reclaim only reclaims from anonymous folios when
> swappiness is set to max. The swappiness semantics from a user
> perspective remain unchanged.
>
> For example, something like this:
>
> echo "2M swappiness=max" > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory.reclaim
>
> will perform reclaim on the rootcg with a swappiness setting of 'max' (a
> new mode) regardless of the file folios. Users have a more comprehensive
> view of the application's memory distribution because there are many
> metrics available. For example, if we find that a certain cgroup has a
> large number of inactive anon folios, we can reclaim only those and skip
> file folios, because with the zram/zswap, the IO tradeoff that
> cache_trim_mode or other file first logic is making doesn't hold -
> file refaults will cause IO, whereas anon decompression will not.
>
> With this patch, the swappiness argument of memory.reclaim has a new
> mode 'max', means reclaiming just from anonymous folios both in traditional
> LRU and MGLRU.
>
> ...
>
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
> @@ -1348,6 +1348,9 @@ The following nested keys are defined.
> same semantics as vm.swappiness applied to memcg reclaim with
> all the existing limitations and potential future extensions.
>
> + The valid range for swappiness is [0-200, max], setting
> + swappiness=max exclusively reclaims anonymous memory.
Being able to assign either a number or a string feels a bit weird.
Usually we use something like "-1" for a hack like this. eg,
NUMA_NO_NODE.
Perhaps we just shouldn't overload swappiness like this. Add a new
tunable (swappiness_mode?) which can override the swappiness setting.
I guess it doesn't matter much. We're used to adding messy interfaces ;)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-10 2:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-09 7:06 [PATCH V3 0/3] add max arg to swappiness in memory.reclaim and lru_gen Zhongkun He
2025-04-09 7:06 ` [PATCH V3 1/3] mm: add swappiness=max arg to memory.reclaim for only anon reclaim Zhongkun He
2025-04-10 2:09 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2025-04-10 3:48 ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2025-04-09 7:06 ` [PATCH V3 2/3] mm: add max swappiness arg to lru_gen for anonymous memory only Zhongkun He
2025-04-10 2:09 ` Andrew Morton
2025-04-10 4:50 ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2025-04-30 7:59 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-05-01 1:56 ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2025-05-02 6:58 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-05-07 3:27 ` Zhongkun He
2025-04-09 7:06 ` [PATCH V3 3/3] mm: vmscan: add more comments about cache_trim_mode Zhongkun He
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