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From: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
To: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v4 00/18] Split netmem from struct page
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 13:22:55 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250609042255.GA43325@system.software.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHS8izPNKe+3A9HAk13idouEzvePnp5Tih0GmSQNzEcsxuvoPA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 12:55:30PM -0700, Mina Almasry wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 8:23 PM Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 11:52:28AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > > The MM subsystem is trying to reduce struct page to a single pointer.
> > > The first step towards that is splitting struct page by its individual
> > > users, as has already been done with folio and slab.  This patchset does
> > > that for netmem which is used for page pools.
> > >
> > > Matthew Wilcox tried and stopped the same work, you can see in:
> > >
> > >    https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230111042214.907030-1-willy@infradead.org/
> > >
> > > Mina Almasry already has done a lot fo prerequisite works by luck.  I
> > > stacked my patches on the top of his work e.i. netmem.
> > >
> > > I focused on removing the page pool members in struct page this time,
> > > not moving the allocation code of page pool from net to mm.  It can be
> > > done later if needed.
> > >
> > > The final patch removing the page pool fields will be submitted once
> > > all the converting work of page to netmem are done:
> > >
> > >    1. converting of libeth_fqe by Tony Nguyen.
> > >    2. converting of mlx5 by Tariq Toukan.
> > >    3. converting of prueth_swdata (on me).
> > >    4. converting of freescale driver (on me).
> > >
> > > For our discussion, I'm sharing what the final patch looks like the
> > > following.
> >
> > To Willy and Mina,
> >
> > I believe this version might be the final version.  Please check the
> > direction if it's going as you meant so as to go ahead convinced.
> >
> > As I mentioned above, the final patch should be submitted later once all
> > the required works on drivers are done, but you can check what it looks
> > like, in the following embedded patch in this cover letter.
> >
> 
> We need this tested with at least 1 of devmem TCP and io_uring zc to
> make sure the net_iov stuff isn't broken (I'll get to that when I have
> time).
> 
> And we need page_pool benchmark numbers before/after this series,
> please run those yourself, if at all possible:

I'm trying but it keeps conflicting on several steps..  Please share a
better manual.

	Byungchul

> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20250525034354.258247-1-almasrymina@google.com/
> 
> This series adds a bunch of netmem/page casts. I expect them not to
> affect fast-path perf, but making sure would be nice.
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Mina


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-09  4:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-04  2:52 [RFC v4 00/18] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 01/18] netmem: introduce struct netmem_desc mirroring " Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 16:53   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:03   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-05 10:04     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-05 19:34   ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 02/18] netmem: introduce netmem alloc APIs to wrap page alloc APIs Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 15:14   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-06-05  0:53     ` Byungchul Park
2025-06-05 10:05   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 03/18] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put APIs in __page_pool_alloc_page_order() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 16:54   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:26   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-05 19:39     ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-05 20:27       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-05 20:34         ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 04/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_page_order() to __page_pool_alloc_netmem_order() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 16:54   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:28   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 05/18] page_pool: use netmem alloc/put APIs in __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 17:02   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:30   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 06/18] page_pool: rename page_pool_return_page() to page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 17:03   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:31   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 07/18] page_pool: use netmem put API in page_pool_return_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 16:54   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:33   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 08/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_release_page_dma() to __page_pool_release_netmem_dma() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 16:55   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:34   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 09/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_put_page() to __page_pool_put_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 16:55   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:35   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-05 10:39     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 10/18] page_pool: rename __page_pool_alloc_pages_slow() to __page_pool_alloc_netmems_slow() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 17:03   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 11/18] mlx4: use netmem descriptor and APIs for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 12/18] netmem: use _Generic to cover const casting for page_to_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 16:55   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:40   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 13/18] netmem: remove __netmem_get_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 16:56   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:41   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 14/18] page_pool: make page_pool_get_dma_addr() just wrap page_pool_get_dma_addr_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 16:57   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:45   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 15/18] netdevsim: use netmem descriptor and APIs for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 16/18] netmem: introduce a netmem API, virt_to_head_netmem() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 16:59   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:45   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-05 19:43   ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 17/18] mt76: use netmem descriptor and APIs for page pool Byungchul Park
2025-06-04  2:52 ` [RFC v4 18/18] page_pool: access ->pp_magic through struct netmem_desc in page_pool_page_is_pp() Byungchul Park
2025-06-04 16:59   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-06-05 10:56   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-05 11:49     ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-05 12:17       ` Harry Yoo
2025-06-05 13:28         ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-05 19:47       ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-05 20:16         ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-04  3:23 ` [RFC v4 00/18] Split netmem from struct page Byungchul Park
2025-06-05 19:55   ` Mina Almasry
2025-06-09  4:22     ` Byungchul Park [this message]
2025-06-09  7:53       ` Byungchul Park

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