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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Alex Mastro <amastro@fb.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] vfio-pci: Best-effort huge pfnmaps with !MAP_FIXED mappings
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 20:40:32 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250624234032.GC167785@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aFsMhnejq4fq6L8N@x1.local>

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 04:37:26PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 03:40:41PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > Even with this new version you have to decide to return PUD_SIZE or
> > bar_size in pci and your same reasoning that PUD_SIZE make sense
> > applies (though I would probably return bar_size and just let the core
> > code cap it to PUD_SIZE)
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Today I went back to look at this, I was trying to introduce this for
> file_operations:
> 
> 	int (*get_mapping_order)(struct file *, unsigned long, size_t);
> 
> It looks almost good, except that it so far has no way to return the
> physical address for further calculation on the alignment.
> 
> For THP, VA is always calculated against pgoff not physical address on the
> alignment.  I think it's OK for THP, because every 2M THP folio will be
> naturally 2M aligned on the physical address, so it fits when e.g. pgoff=0
> in the calculation of thp_get_unmapped_area_vmflags().
> 
> Logically it should even also work for vfio-pci, as long as VFIO keeps
> using the lower 40 bits of the device_fd to represent the bar offset,
> meanwhile it'll also require PCIe spec asking the PCI bars to be mapped
> aligned with bar sizes.
> 
> But from an API POV, get_mapping_order() logically should return something
> for further calculation of the alignment to get the VA.  pgoff here may not
> always be the right thing to use to align to the VA: after all, pgtable
> mapping is about VA -> PA, the only reasonable and reliable way is to align
> VA to the PA to be mappped, and as an API we shouldn't assume pgoff is
> always aligned to PA address space.

My feeling, and the reason I used the phrase "pgoff aligned address",
is that the owner of the file should already ensure that for the large
PTEs/folios:
 pgoff % 2**order == 0
 physical % 2**order == 0

So, things like VFIO do need to hand out high alignment pgoffs to make
this work - which it already does.

To me this just keeps thing simpler. I guess if someone comes up with
a case where they really can't get a pgoff alignment and really need a
high order mapping then maybe we can add a new return field of some
kind (pgoff adjustment?) but that is so weird I'd leave it to the
future person to come and justfiy it.

Jason


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-24 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-13 13:41 [PATCH 0/5] mm/vfio: huge pfnmaps with !MAP_FIXED mappings Peter Xu
2025-06-13 13:41 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: Deduplicate mm_get_unmapped_area() Peter Xu
2025-06-13 14:12   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 14:55   ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-13 14:58   ` Zi Yan
2025-06-13 15:57   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-13 17:00     ` Pedro Falcato
2025-06-13 18:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-16  8:01   ` David Laight
2025-06-17 21:13     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 13:41 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm/hugetlb: Remove prepare_hugepage_range() Peter Xu
2025-06-13 14:12   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 14:59   ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-13 15:13   ` Zi Yan
2025-06-13 16:24     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 18:01       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-14  4:11   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-06-17 21:07     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 13:41 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: Rename __thp_get_unmapped_area to mm_get_unmapped_area_aligned Peter Xu
2025-06-13 14:17   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 15:13     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 16:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 18:31         ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 15:19   ` Zi Yan
2025-06-13 18:33     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 15:36   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-13 18:45     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 19:18       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-13 20:34         ` Peter Xu
2025-06-14  5:58           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-14  5:23   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-06-16 12:14     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-16 12:20       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-16 12:26         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 13:41 ` [PATCH 4/5] vfio: Introduce vfio_device_ops.get_unmapped_area hook Peter Xu
2025-06-13 14:18   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 18:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-14 14:46   ` kernel test robot
2025-06-17 15:39     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-17 15:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 16:47         ` Peter Xu
2025-06-17 19:39           ` Peter Xu
2025-06-17 19:46             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 20:01               ` Peter Xu
2025-06-17 23:00                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 23:26                   ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 13:41 ` [PATCH 5/5] vfio-pci: Best-effort huge pfnmaps with !MAP_FIXED mappings Peter Xu
2025-06-13 14:29   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 15:26     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 16:09       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 19:15         ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 23:16           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-16 22:06             ` Peter Xu
2025-06-16 23:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 20:56                 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-17 23:18                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 23:36                     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-18 16:56                       ` Peter Xu
2025-06-18 17:46                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-18 19:15                           ` Peter Xu
2025-06-19 13:58                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-19 14:55                               ` Peter Xu
2025-06-19 18:40                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-24 20:37                                   ` Peter Xu
2025-06-24 20:51                                     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-24 23:40                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-06-25  0:48                                       ` Peter Xu
2025-06-25 13:07                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-25 17:12                                           ` Peter Xu
2025-06-25 18:41                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-25 19:26                                               ` Peter Xu
2025-06-30 14:05                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-02 20:58                                                   ` Peter Xu
2025-07-02 23:32                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 17:44   ` Alex Mastro
2025-06-13 18:53     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-13 18:09   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-13 19:21     ` Peter Xu

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