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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: ankita@nvidia.com, maz@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 6/6] KVM: arm64: Expose new KVM cap for cacheable PFNMAP
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 12:04:42 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250704150442.GI1410929@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29cc7d2a-b174-4ed3-ae1a-22db478c62ec@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 04:15:28PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 04.07.25 15:44, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 04:21:11AM +0000, ankita@nvidia.com wrote:
> > > From: Ankit Agrawal <ankita@nvidia.com>
> > > 
> > > Introduce a new KVM capability to expose to the userspace whether
> > > cacheable mapping of PFNMAP is supported.
> > > 
> > > The ability to safely do the cacheable mapping of PFNMAP is contingent
> > > on S2FWB and ARM64_HAS_CACHE_DIC. S2FWB allows KVM to avoid flushing
> > > the D cache, ARM64_HAS_CACHE_DIC allows KVM to avoid flushing the icache
> > > and turns icache_inval_pou() into a NOP. The cap would be false if
> > > those requirements are missing and is checked by making use of
> > > kvm_arch_supports_cacheable_pfnmap.
> > > 
> > > This capability would allow userspace to discover the support.
> > > It could for instance be used by userspace to prevent live-migration
> > > across FWB and non-FWB hosts.
> > > 
> > > CC: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> > > CC: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > > CC: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
> > > CC: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> > > Suggested-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Ankit Agrawal <ankita@nvidia.com>
> > > ---
> > >   Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 13 ++++++++++++-
> > >   arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c           |  7 +++++++
> > >   include/uapi/linux/kvm.h       |  1 +
> > >   3 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > I don't know if any VMM will ever use this, but it looks OK
> 
> So, should we defer it to the point where we actually have a use case?
> 
> I mean, patch #4 could be simplified by modifying arm64 code in patch #5
> only. No need for a common kvm_arch function etc.

IDK, I think Marc and Oliver are right it makes sense to have it, I
just don't really see how a VMM would make use of it..

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-04 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-21  4:21 [PATCH v9 0/6] KVM: arm64: Map GPU device memory as cacheable ankita
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] KVM: arm64: Rename the device variable to s2_force_noncacheable ankita
2025-07-04 13:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 13:57   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] KVM: arm64: Update the check to detect device memory ankita
2025-07-04 13:43   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:02   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] KVM: arm64: Block cacheable PFNMAP mapping ankita
2025-06-27 13:49   ` Will Deacon
2025-06-30  1:56     ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-06-30 12:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 12:21         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-04 16:04           ` Will Deacon
2025-07-04 16:47             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-08 12:47               ` Will Deacon
2025-07-04 13:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:09   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] KVM: arm64: New function to determine hardware cache management support ankita
2025-07-04 13:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] KVM: arm64: Allow cacheable stage 2 mapping using VMA flags ankita
2025-07-04 14:04   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:13     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-04 16:51       ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] KVM: arm64: Expose new KVM cap for cacheable PFNMAP ankita
2025-07-04 13:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:15     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-04 15:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-07-04 16:20         ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-07-04 16:56           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-27  5:03 ` [PATCH v9 0/6] KVM: arm64: Map GPU device memory as cacheable Ankit Agrawal
2025-07-02  9:33 ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-07-02 16:51   ` Donald Dutile

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