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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC mm v5 1/2] page_pool: check nmdesc->pp to see its usage as page pool for net_iov not page-backed
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2025 18:37:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251107183712.36228f2a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251108022458.GA65163@system.software.com>

On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 11:24:58 +0900 Byungchul Park wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2025 at 05:41:29PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 13:47:08 +0900 Byungchul Park wrote:  
> > > The offset of page_type in struct page cannot be used in struct net_iov
> > > for the same purpose, since the offset in struct net_iov is for storing
> > > (struct net_iov_area *)owner.  
> > 
> > owner does not have to be at a fixed offset. Can we not move owner
> > to _pp_mapping_pad ? Or reorder it with type, enum net_iov_type
> > only has 2 values we can smoosh it with page_type easily.  
> 
> I'm still confused.  I think you probably understand what this work is
> for.  (I've explained several times with related links.)  Or am I
> missing something from your questions?
> 
> I've answered your question directly since you asked, but the point is
> that, struct net_iov will no longer overlay on struct page.
> 
> Instead, struct netmem_desc will be responsible for keeping the pp
> fields while struct page will lay down the resonsibility, once the pp
> fields will be removed from struct page like:

I understand the end goal. I don't understand why patch 1 is a step 
in that direction, and you seem incapable of explaining it. So please
either follow my suggestion on how to proceed with patch 2 without
patch 1 in current form. Or come back when have the full conversion
ready.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-08  2:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-03  7:51 [RFC mm v5 0/2] mm, page_pool: introduce a new page type for page pool in page type Byungchul Park
2025-11-03  7:51 ` [RFC mm v5 1/2] page_pool: check nmdesc->pp to see its usage as page pool for net_iov not page-backed Byungchul Park
2025-11-03 12:24   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-11-06 11:07   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-07  1:33   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-07  1:59     ` Byungchul Park
2025-11-07  2:08       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-07  4:47         ` Byungchul Park
2025-11-08  1:41           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-08  2:24             ` Byungchul Park
2025-11-08  2:29               ` Byungchul Park
2025-11-08  2:37               ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2025-11-10  1:09                 ` Byungchul Park
2025-11-11  1:40                   ` Byungchul Park
2025-11-11  1:56                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-11  2:17                       ` Byungchul Park
2025-11-11  2:45                         ` Byungchul Park
2025-11-11 12:36                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-11-12  7:41             ` Byungchul Park
2025-11-15  1:23               ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-17  4:25                 ` Byungchul Park
2025-11-03  7:51 ` [RFC mm v5 2/2] mm: introduce a new page type for page pool in page type Byungchul Park
2025-11-03 12:26   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-11-03 12:39     ` Byungchul Park
2025-11-03 14:50       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-11-06 11:08   ` Pavel Begunkov

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