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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: "Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Petr Tesarik" <ptesarik@suse.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Masami Hiramatsu" <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	"Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/8] dma-mapping: Introduce DMA require coherency attribute
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2026 18:46:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260312164622.GZ12611@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260312121937.GD1469476@ziepe.ca>

On Thu, Mar 12, 2026 at 09:19:37AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2026 at 09:08:47PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > From: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
> > 
> > The mapping buffers which carry this attribute require DMA coherent system.
> > This means that they can't take SWIOTLB path, can perform CPU cache overlap
> > and doesn't perform cache flushing.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/core-api/dma-attributes.rst | 12 ++++++++++++
> >  include/linux/dma-mapping.h               |  7 +++++++
> >  include/trace/events/dma.h                |  3 ++-
> >  kernel/dma/debug.c                        |  3 ++-
> >  kernel/dma/mapping.c                      |  6 ++++++
> >  5 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/core-api/dma-attributes.rst b/Documentation/core-api/dma-attributes.rst
> > index 48cfe86cc06d7..69d094f144c70 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/core-api/dma-attributes.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/core-api/dma-attributes.rst
> > @@ -163,3 +163,15 @@ data corruption.
> >  
> >  All mappings that share a cache line must set this attribute to suppress DMA
> >  debug warnings about overlapping mappings.
> > +
> > +DMA_ATTR_REQUIRE_COHERENT
> > +-------------------------
> > +
> > +The mapping buffers which carry this attribute require DMA coherent system. This means
> > +that they can't take SWIOTLB path, can perform CPU cache overlap and doesn't perform
> > +cache flushing.
> 
> DMA mapping requests with the DMA_ATTR_REQUIRE_COHERENT fail on any
> system where SWIOTLB or cache management is required. This should only
> be used to support uAPI designs that require continuous HW DMA
> coherence with userspace processes, for example RDMA and DRM. At a
> minimum the memory being mapped must be userspace memory from
> pin_user_pages() or similar.
> 
> Drivers should consider using dma_mmap_pages() instead of this
> interface when building their uAPIs, when possible.
> 
> It must never be used in an in-kernel driver that only works with
> kernal memory.
> 
> > @@ -164,6 +164,9 @@ dma_addr_t dma_map_phys(struct device *dev, phys_addr_t phys, size_t size,
> >  	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!dev->dma_mask))
> >  		return DMA_MAPPING_ERROR;
> >  
> > +	if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev) && (attrs & DMA_ATTR_REQUIRE_COHERENT))
> > +		return DMA_MAPPING_ERROR;
> 
> This doesn't capture enough conditions.. is_swiotlb_force_bounce(),
> dma_kmalloc_needs_bounce(), dma_capable(), etc all need to be blocked
> too

These checks exist in dma_direct_map_phys() and here is the common check
between direct and IOMMU modes.

Thanks

> 
> So check it inside swiotlb_map() too, and maybe shift the above
> into the existing branches:
> 
>         if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev) &&
>             !(attrs & (DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC | DMA_ATTR_MMIO)))
>                 arch_sync_dma_for_device(phys, size, dir);
> 
> Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-12 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-11 19:08 [PATCH v2 0/8] RDMA: Enable operation with DMA debug enabled Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-11 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] dma-debug: Allow multiple invocations of overlapping entries Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-11 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] dma-mapping: handle DMA_ATTR_CPU_CACHE_CLEAN in trace output Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-11 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] dma-mapping: Clarify valid conditions for CPU cache line overlap Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-11 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] dma-mapping: Introduce DMA require coherency attribute Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-12 12:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-12 16:46     ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2026-03-11 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] dma-direct: prevent SWIOTLB path when DMA_ATTR_REQUIRE_COHERENT is set Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-12 12:20   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-12 16:47     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-11 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] iommu/dma: add support for DMA_ATTR_REQUIRE_COHERENT attribute Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-11 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] RDMA/umem: Tell DMA mapping that UMEM requires coherency Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-12 12:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-12 12:34   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-11 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] mm/hmm: Indicate that HMM requires DMA coherency Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-12 12:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-12 16:50     ` Leon Romanovsky

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