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Howlett" , "# 5 . 19 . x" , David Hildenbrand , Jonathan Corbet , Lorenzo Stoakes , Michal Hocko , Mike Rapoport , Shuah Khan , Suren Baghdasaryan , Vlastimil Babka , damon@lists.linux.dev, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, Roman Gushchin Subject: Re: (sashiko status) [PATCH 0/2] Docs/admin-guide/mm/damon: warn commit_inputs vs other params race Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2026 21:52:45 -0700 Message-ID: <20260331045245.67438-1-sj@kernel.org> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.47.3 In-Reply-To: <20260330142205.e7c7d7b47ec15a634f6eebf4@linux-foundation.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Stat-Signature: bxgfe9fse3yo5tacmq8nouez7mcjoq1x X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5910A40005 X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam03 X-HE-Tag: 1774932769-98302 X-HE-Meta: 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 Azg4JzmU k1NOOKnmFiqV9tjYE6qXVA5nYWkqCZyvnARlB2k3MlFwg7XUawNA+HJl1/rU4lqIyjSAv+UbORRgJSsBJIS3swjTTngGn2FS2ICRtf+S023Auwf7vXkii+7JMzv2YTPQ4MOUvjJVMqq4f7K+t9qo46zMAezztriaiksd9SthFhbuX3HyVp/bsR7R3o0OH31kDbyVNc/5OA5VXGxUgX4Rpt7/7SQUyf864VHXjegqHvLyjCM/bfEsoJCal83WE4QqqwQSVKDnCD8SOZWVHt5ufcRF5yCYWXtyZih2U6Kr35/L6HOS6tXIgaDNILNe95QAj49lteRltJbXOcnVgG5NZJauAZHB1S7zHBChJy9EM21Npw/SFHJMk5TLBC1SQFTBY4uR8PaTbSLChH3tQTUyLkHEYTk8mKPadcIrDQlFGbEViTcY= Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 14:22:05 -0700 Andrew Morton wrote: > On Sun, 29 Mar 2026 12:32:26 -0700 SeongJae Park wrote: > > > On Sun, 29 Mar 2026 20:05:53 +0200 Greg KH wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2026 at 08:49:16AM -0700, SeongJae Park wrote: > > > > Forwarding sashiko.dev review status for this thread. > > > > > > > > # review url: https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260329153052.46657-1-sj@kernel.org > > > > > > Why are you doing this? If we want to see the review, can't we just go > > > and look at the tool itself? > > > > We can. But it is bit cumbersome to opening web browser and moving my focus to > > there. Reading everything on the mailing tool is easier for some people like > > me. Like some test bots send reports are replying to patches, or we sometimes > > forwarding bugzilla reports to mailing lists in a form of a plain text mail. > > > > Secondly, I have to share my opinions about the reviews, as many times AI > > reviews need human's opinions. There is no good way to do that on the web ui > > of the tool (sashiko) for now, and I think this mail based flow is the best. > > I do agree with Greg that it's all a bit excessive. Thanks for your > your diligence, but perhaps dial it back a bit? It's OK - we're all > trying to figure out how best to utilize this tool. Thank you for your kind words, Andrew. I understand and admit the fact that this looks excessive. > > I view Sashiko as primarily an author tool. Sometimes I call it > checkpatch++. Thank you for sharing your perspective. This is helpful at what you want from the use of the tool, thank you. My view of sashiko was a human reviewer that having very odd characteristic and cannot answer to my feedback for a reason, but still being useful in many cases. Hence I wanted to help the special reviewer be able to communicate with others on the mailing list. And I was thinking anyway that's what sashiko will do, because I saw sending review as mail as one of TODO items for sashiko, from the public announcement, and I onboarded DAMON for that. But apparently not everyone is sharing same view. My understanding of the TODO item in sashiko public announcement may also be biased. Maybe being a subsystem's sole maintainer that looking for a reviewer made such uncautiously biased perspectives. > In a better world, author would be able to sort out > Sashiko issues before ever sending out the patchset. But in this > world, a public send is needed to obtain that review. > > So what we're presently seeing is author development activity which is > unfortunately and inappropriately being conducted on a public list. Makes sense. Now I understand why you and Roman were discussing having a separate mailing list for sharing the reviews via mail as a path forward, and I agree that could be a good option. > > Personally, I pay only a little attention to author's Sashiko activity. > Just enough to see whether I should pay more attention. If author > says "oops, let me redo" then fine, I'll await the next spin. If > author says "that was all nonsense" then fine, time to take a closer > look. Makes sense. I will try to keep sharing necessary information, but for only targetted audiences, with less traffic. Thanks, SJ