From: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
To: Liew Rui Yan <aethernet65535@gmail.com>
Cc: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>, damon@lists.linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm/damon: reset thread status parameters upon kdamond termination
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 06:54:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260402135440.74339-1-sj@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260402053458.26524-1-aethernet65535@gmail.com>
On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 13:34:58 +0800 Liew Rui Yan <aethernet65535@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi SeongJae,
>
> On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 08:41:18 -0700 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > What about checking if damon_call() and damon_commit_ctx() failures via therir
> > return value? It seems damon_call() fails only when kdamond goes to the
> > termination path. damon_commit_ctx() failure always causes the kdamond be
> > terminated. So if I didn't miss something that could be a path forward. What
> > do you think?
>
> Thank you for the suggestion. I looked into the code and I think
> focusing on damon_commit_ctx() failures makes sense.
>
> Specifically, damon_call() is only used in the damon_{lru_sort, reclaim}
> _enabled_store() path, which doesn't trigger unexpected termination. The
> main risk comes from 'commit_inputs', which calls damon_{lru_sort,
> reclaim}_apply_parameters() . When damon_commit_ctx() fails there, it
> reliably indicates that kdamond is terminating.
>
> My plan is to add the error check directly in apply_parameters(), right
> after damon_commit_ctx():
>
> err = damon_commit_ctx(ctx, param_ctx);
> if (err) {
> enabled = false;
> kdamond_pid = -1;
> }
>
> This covers the reproducible case (addr_unit=3 + commit_inputs=Y).
>
> For truly unexpected termination (e.g., memory allocation failure inside
> kdamond), I'm considering a fallback mechanism in enabled_store():
>
> - When the user writes 'N' to 'enabled', if damon_stop() fails but
> kdamond is actually terminated, we reset enabled and kdamond_pid.
Sounds good.
>
> - When the user writes 'Y' to 'enabled', if enabled is already 'Y' but
> kdamond is terminated, we treat this as a restart request.
This sounds bit odd to me. User shows enabled=Y and kdamond_pid!=-1. Why they
would write 'Y' again? Yes, they would notice kdamond is terminated in real,
using 'ps' like tool. But even in the case, I'd imagine users would write N to
enabled first, and then write Y to enabled. In other words, this could improve
the user experience, but seems not really necessary to me, at least as a
hotfix. What do you think?
>
> This way, even if kdamond terminates unexpectedly, the next user
> interaction will recover the state automatically.
>
> Does this approach sound reasonable?
Yes, the plan for the next version sounds good to me.
Thanks,
SJ
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-02 13:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-30 16:43 [RFC PATCH] mm/damon: reset thread status parameters upon kdamond termination Liew Rui Yan
2026-03-30 18:53 ` (sashiko review) " Liew Rui Yan
2026-03-30 19:51 ` Liew Rui Yan
2026-03-30 22:42 ` Liew Rui Yan
2026-03-31 5:02 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-31 6:58 ` Liew Rui Yan
2026-03-31 16:09 ` Liew Rui Yan
2026-04-01 0:44 ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-01 8:24 ` Liew Rui Yan
2026-04-01 15:41 ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-02 5:34 ` Liew Rui Yan
2026-04-02 13:54 ` SeongJae Park [this message]
2026-04-03 4:34 ` Liew Rui Yan
2026-04-03 14:06 ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-01 0:29 ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-01 8:23 ` Liew Rui Yan
2026-04-02 0:40 ` SeongJae Park
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