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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	ypodemsk@redhat.com, hughd@google.com, will@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 7.2 v10 1/2] mm/mmu_gather: prepare to skip redundant sync IPIs
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 17:04:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260424150454.GF3126523@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260424062528.71951-2-lance.yang@linux.dev>

On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 02:25:27PM +0800, Lance Yang wrote:
> diff --git a/mm/mmu_gather.c b/mm/mmu_gather.c
> index 3985d856de7f..37a6a711c37e 100644
> --- a/mm/mmu_gather.c
> +++ b/mm/mmu_gather.c
> @@ -283,6 +283,14 @@ void tlb_remove_table_sync_one(void)
>  	 * It is however sufficient for software page-table walkers that rely on
>  	 * IRQ disabling.
>  	 */
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * Skip IPI if the preceding TLB flush already synchronized with
> +	 * all CPUs that could be doing software/lockless page table walks.
> +	 */
> +	if (tlb_table_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast())
> +		return;
> +
>  	smp_call_function(tlb_remove_table_smp_sync, NULL, 1);
>  }
>  
> @@ -312,6 +320,13 @@ static void tlb_remove_table_free(struct mmu_table_batch *batch)
>   */
>  void tlb_remove_table_sync_rcu(void)
>  {
> +	/*
> +	 * Skip RCU wait if the preceding TLB flush already synchronized
> +	 * with all CPUs that could be doing software/lockless page table walks.
> +	 */
> +	if (tlb_table_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast())
> +		return;
> +
>  	synchronize_rcu();
>  }

So I don't like this at all.... The comment says there is a preceding
TLB flush, but there is nothing that guarantees there is. One would have
to go audit all users and ensure this is always true.

This thing is incredibly fragile.

Also, the comment in gup_fast() is nonsense, the local_irq_disable()
isn't about tlb_remove_table_sync_one(), it is primarily about TLBI
IPIs.





  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-24 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-24  6:25 [PATCH 7.2 v10 0/2] skip redundant sync IPIs when TLB flush sent them Lance Yang
2026-04-24  6:25 ` [PATCH 7.2 v10 1/2] mm/mmu_gather: prepare to skip redundant sync IPIs Lance Yang
2026-04-24 15:04   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-04-24 15:52     ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-24 15:40   ` Lance Yang
2026-04-24  6:25 ` [PATCH 7.2 v10 2/2] x86/tlb: skip redundant sync IPIs for native TLB flush Lance Yang
2026-04-24 15:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-24 15:49     ` Lance Yang
2026-04-24 13:30 ` [PATCH 7.2 v10 0/2] skip redundant sync IPIs when TLB flush sent them Andrew Morton
2026-04-24 13:37   ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-04-24 14:15     ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-24 14:20       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-24 14:31         ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-24 14:40           ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-04-24 18:36           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-24 18:50             ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-04-24 19:01               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-24 19:12                 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-24 19:15                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-04-25  0:58                     ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-24 19:22                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-24 19:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-24 20:03                       ` Roman Gushchin
2026-04-24 20:11                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-24 19:08               ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-24 19:09               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-24 19:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-24 19:24                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-24 19:18                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-04-25  1:12                   ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-25  5:17                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-25 11:36                     ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-25  1:19           ` SeongJae Park

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