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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	baoquan.he@linux.dev, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	usama.arif@linux.dev, kasong@tencent.com, nphamcs@gmail.com,
	shikemeng@huaweicloud.com, youngjun.park@lge.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: RFC: better block swap batching and a different take on swap_ops
Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 09:16:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260528071634.GA1184@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACePvbVvhJ7Kz2wtUUu+PoNweOsq5XABSMqKrabX6FTdK2fpuA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 12:10:48AM -0700, Chris Li wrote:
> I like the direction of this patch series. I suggest you send it out
> as formal patches without the RFC.

I've been planning to do that for two days, but I'm still waiting
for the buildbot result as the buildbot seems to have some delays.

> One observation is that, this patch series aims at situations where
> block io merging would be beneficial. This makes sense for the
> physical block device. However for the memory compression based swap
> interface, block IO merging might not offer additional benefits. What
> do you think about a combination approach that allows the swap back
> end to select whether to use bio merging for swap or not? The end
> result is that file system swap will use your swap_ops flavor. The
> zram and other memory-based swap backends use an API that behaves more
> like Baoquan's original swap_ops series.

There are two approaches how we could do that:  make the can_merge
callback more high-level to avoid merging, or offer additional hooks.

> We can merge your bio merging swap_ops series first and then design
> how to allow swap backends to optionally bypass the bio merging as a
> follow up step.

Yes, I'd rather do that when we have a consumer.  My impression so far
was that the main support way to do compression was zswap which sits
above this, and we would not optimize for low-level compression.  If
we have to do that for some reason we can do reasonable optimizations
for it.



  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-28  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-15 12:00 RFC: better block swap batching and a different take on swap_ops Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-15 12:00 ` [PATCH 1/6] shmem: provide a shmem_write_folio wrapper Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-15 12:00 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm: merge writeout into pageout Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-15 12:00 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm/swap: intoduce struct swap_io_ctx Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-15 12:00 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm/swap: also use struct swap_iocb for block I/O Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-15 12:00 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm/swap: use swap_ops to register swap device's methods Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-15 12:00 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm/swap: remove SWP_FS_OPS Christoph Hellwig
2026-05-22 13:31 ` RFC: better block swap batching and a different take on swap_ops Baoquan He
2026-05-28  7:10 ` Chris Li
2026-05-28  7:16   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-05-28  7:39     ` Chris Li

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