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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: balbirs@nvidia.com
Cc: david@kernel.org, lance.yang@linux.dev,
	richard.weiyang@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	ljs@kernel.org, riel@surriel.com, liam@infradead.org,
	vbabka@kernel.org, harry@kernel.org, jannh@google.com,
	ziy@nvidia.com, sj@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch v2] mm/page_vma_mapped: revalidate and do proper check before return device-private pmd
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 11:14:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260617031454.29210-1-lance.yang@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajIBTyWCLDo9RAHR@parvat>


On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 12:11:14PM +1000, Balbir Singh wrote:
>On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 03:07:53PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 6/16/26 14:30, Lance Yang wrote:
>> > 
>> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 06:34:36AM +0000, Wei Yang wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >> diff --git a/mm/page_vma_mapped.c b/mm/page_vma_mapped.c
>> >> index 2ccbabfb2cc1..21635fab209c 100644
>> >> --- a/mm/page_vma_mapped.c
>> >> +++ b/mm/page_vma_mapped.c
>> >> @@ -243,40 +243,28 @@ bool page_vma_mapped_walk(struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw)
>> >> 		 */
>> >> 		pmde = pmdp_get_lockless(pvmw->pmd);
>> >>
>> >> -		if (pmd_trans_huge(pmde) || pmd_is_migration_entry(pmde)) {
>> >> -			pvmw->ptl = pmd_lock(mm, pvmw->pmd);
>> >> -			pmde = *pvmw->pmd;
>> >> -			if (!pmd_present(pmde)) {
>> >> -				softleaf_t entry;
>> >> -
>> >> -				if (!thp_migration_supported() ||
>> >> -				    !(pvmw->flags & PVMW_MIGRATION))
>> >> -					return not_found(pvmw);
>> >> -				entry = softleaf_from_pmd(pmde);
>> >> -
>> >> -				if (!softleaf_is_migration(entry) ||
>> >> -				    !check_pmd(softleaf_to_pfn(entry), pvmw))
>> >> -					return not_found(pvmw);
>> >> -				return true;
>> >> -			}
>> >> -			if (likely(pmd_trans_huge(pmde))) {
>> >> -				if (pvmw->flags & PVMW_MIGRATION)
>> >> -					return not_found(pvmw);
>> >> -				if (!check_pmd(pmd_pfn(pmde), pvmw))
>> >> -					return not_found(pvmw);
>> >> -				return true;
>> >> -			}
>> >> -			/* THP pmd was split under us: handle on pte level */
>> >> -			spin_unlock(pvmw->ptl);
>> >> -			pvmw->ptl = NULL;
>> >> -		} else if (!pmd_present(pmde)) {
>> >> -			const softleaf_t entry = softleaf_from_pmd(pmde);
>> >> -
>> >> -			if (softleaf_is_device_private(entry)) {
>> >> -				pvmw->ptl = pmd_lock(mm, pvmw->pmd);
>> >> -				return true;
>> >> -			}
>> >> +		if (pmd_present(pmde)) {
>> >> +			if (!pmd_leaf(pmde))
>> >> +				goto pte_table;
>> >> +			if (pvmw->flags & PVMW_MIGRATION)
>> >> +				return not_found(pvmw);
>> >> +			if (!check_pmd(pmd_pfn(pmde), pvmw))
>> >> +				return not_found(pvmw);
>> >> +		} else if (pmd_is_migration_entry(pmde)) {
>> >> +			softleaf_t entry = softleaf_from_pmd(pmde);
>> >> +
>> >> +			if (!(pvmw->flags & PVMW_MIGRATION))
>> >> +				return not_found(pvmw);
>> > 
>> > Looked at history a bit, and I wonder if this changed something old
>> > here ...
>> > 
>> > Since 616b8371539a ("mm: thp: enable thp migration in generic path"), PMD
>> > migration handling took PTL before doing PVMW_MIGRATION/PFN checks,
>> > including not_found() cases. So lockless PMD read was just a filter ...
>> > 
>> > With this fix, true case gets final pmd_same() check, but this
>> > not_found() case happens before taking PTL.
>> > 
>> > So a !PVMW_MIGRATION walker could race with someone, e.g.
>> > remove_migration_pmd(): we make the not_found() decision from old PMD
>> > value that still says "migration", while real *pvmw->pmd may already be
>> > present again. We return without ever taking PTL :)
>> > 
>> > Not sure about practical fallout, but should these PMD-level not_found()
>> > cases also take PTL and restart if PMD changed?
>> I was hoping that we could so something similar to the PTE case.
>> 
>> In map_pte(), we check whether the PMD changed, which is slightly different.
>> 
>> The actual check happens in check_pte() after grabbing the PTL.
>> 
>> For the case you describe, map_pte() would find !pte_none(ptent) ...
>> !pte_present(ptent) and !is_migration, and effectively grab the lock and proceed
>> to check_pte().
>> 
>> In check_pte() we re-check under lock indeed.
>>
>
>Thinking of the practical fallout, not finding the PMD for a non
>migration worker should be OK. Is there a case where it's not OK to
>report the old state.

I was thinking the lockless value should only be used as a first filter,
to see whether entry looks worth checking.

PTE side is roughly lockless filter + PTL/check_pte().

PMD true case now gets PTL/pmd_same(), but some PMD not_found() cases
still come straight from lockless "pmde".

That mismatch felt odd to me ...

Cheers, Lance


      reply	other threads:[~2026-06-17  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260616063436.20455-1-richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
2026-06-16 12:30 ` [Patch v2] mm/page_vma_mapped: revalidate and do proper check before return device-private pmd Lance Yang
2026-06-16 23:50   ` Wei Yang
2026-06-17  2:32     ` Lance Yang
     [not found]   ` <666dc40b-e37a-46eb-af55-7a81bc1643f1@kernel.org>
2026-06-17  2:11     ` Balbir Singh
2026-06-17  3:14       ` Lance Yang [this message]

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