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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: page_alloc: fix non-movable reclaim storm in defrag_mode
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2026 16:22:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260722162207.31a2c491ffaf36d1e8948c14@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260722150006.3848560-5-hannes@cmpxchg.org>

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 10:56:47 -0400 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:

> As we deployed defrag_mode into Meta production, pressure spikes and
> excessive swapping were observed on some workloads. Tracing confirmed
> that this is unmovable/reclaimable requests spinning in the allocator
> and direct reclaim, causing excessive amounts of swap.
> 
> The initial plan for defrag_mode was to rely on kswapd/kcompactd to
> produce blocks, and if those are overwhelmed under high pressure, let
> the allocator fall back (__rmqueue_steal()) after its retry loops.
> However, that retrying results in more reclaim on some of these
> workloads than we'd hoped, sometimes excessively so, spurred on by the
> !costly order conditions in should_reclaim_retry().
> 
> The storms are dependent on the request type. Reclaim will inevitably
> make room in existing movable blocks, since that's where the LRU pages
> live. So if movable requests retry on reclaim, they make progress.
> 
> When non-movable requests spin in reclaim that isn't productive. They
> cannot use the individually freed pages, and the process is unlikely
> to accidentally free whole blocks to meet the ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT bar.
> They spin and overreclaim excessively, which tanks performance and
> triggers userspace guards like swap exhaustion or pressure based OOM.
> 
> To fix this, send non-movable requests, regardless of order, into
> pageblock reclaim/compaction. This way, they help move things along to
> meet the ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT bar. After this patch, the reclaim storms
> and excess OOM rates are no longer observed in production.
> 
> The longer-term plan is still to have all requests, including the
> movable ones, help make blocks to spread the cost of defragmenting
> more evenly and fairly; combined with proper watermarking to reduce
> allocation latencies in the common case. However, doing this naively
> unearths scaling and concurrency limitations in compaction that need
> to be addressed first. Promoting just non-movables for now is the
> minimally viable bug fix for the above issue.
> 
> Fixes: e3aa7df331bc ("mm: page_alloc: defrag_mode")
> Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>

This cc:stable fix doesn't apply to current mainline because the
preceding non-cc:stable patches get in the way.

This means that the -stable maintainers will have to ask you to redo
the fix to make it backportable.  And you'll then be preparing a patch
which hasn't had standalone testing in mainline.  All very cumbersome.

So is it practical to make the fix come first, as a cc:stable hotfix so
we can upstream the other patches in the next merge window?

(An alternative would be to put cc:stable on all four patches.  That's
a bit abusive but we do it rarely).

Either way, I'll get these into mm.git for testing while we await
review on [4/4], thanks.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-22 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-22 14:56 [PATCH v2 0/4] mm: fix reclaim storms in defrag_mode Johannes Weiner
2026-07-22 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: page_alloc: __GFP_FS lockdep annotation for direct compaction Johannes Weiner
2026-07-22 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: compaction: support non-movable compaction for pageblock requests Johannes Weiner
2026-07-22 16:23   ` Gregory Price
2026-07-22 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm: page_alloc: move capture_control to the page allocator Johannes Weiner
2026-07-22 16:59   ` Gregory Price
2026-07-22 14:56 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: page_alloc: fix non-movable reclaim storm in defrag_mode Johannes Weiner
2026-07-22 17:10   ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-22 23:22   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2026-07-23 10:22     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-23 14:08       ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-23 14:17         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-23 15:13   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)

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