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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Clark Williams" <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	"Sean Christopherson" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mmu_notifier: Remove non_block_start/end() from notifier invocation
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 12:29:14 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260811152914.GI544626@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a552b227e18ddbb3fa1f2edf2d1cb30ee6ccff13.camel@infradead.org>

On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 03:33:18PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > At the cost of completely destroying the mm shootdown performance with
> > 1s RCU grace period waits every mm operation. No thanks.
> 
> I feel like we're not talking about the same things here.
> 
> The KVM patch which this enables does *not* behave as you have
> described. Have you looked at it?

It does, it calls synchronize_rcu() from
kvm_mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start() - don't do that...

> Nobody's suggesting that we force any *other* MMU notifiers to do
> anything that they don't do today.

Sure, but nobody should implement their own notifiers with such a
heavy locking primitive.

Jason


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-11 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-11  8:58 [PATCH] mm/mmu_notifier: Remove non_block_start/end() from notifier invocation David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 14:21   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 14:27     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 14:33       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 14:42         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-11 15:24           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:30             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 15:29         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-08-11 15:15       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:24         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 15:29           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 16:24             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 17:22               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 17:26                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 17:59                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 18:19                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 20:06                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 20:21                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-08-11 20:29                         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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