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McKenney" , Sean Christopherson , linux-mm@kvack.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mmu_notifier: Remove non_block_start/end() from notifier invocation Message-ID: <20260812160751.GE662699@ziepe.ca> References: <37b83b429b9f14ea6ad4ca1c13cc8e565ec09033.camel@infradead.org> <44c51ace9b0dc44b795f6f48c91cda440eed910b.camel@infradead.org> <20260812122759.GA662699@ziepe.ca> <20260812134934.GC662699@ziepe.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B3E914000C X-Stat-Signature: gcrmhp61apipgwgzqo68x1d7gyrtwmyg X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam11 X-HE-Tag: 1786550873-625182 X-HE-Meta: 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 6ChkycsW o2enyBXMo1yLsEx1jQzdRucRRZjWj+cLhehLemy7gE6FYFvGRSpGWOGmHmLG6yNLZUyZRU4K+/KdxEjaH2cdWpKuE10cSEFEWcJYIuCqQvBXyzKMspBMqyA7nHehcwbMai3m3SdKVwf5hP69MQEgei+g4xrxstg+WQMYxlY0/zuz4VFPzoYaHBX1GMqOwP28ugyzSmmwc16fzfCIBBhRDApM0tgwim7QGl0nXAfAoOy2ZXGQ+JfKiPDRuHPGzvCUriCliEo4Oezzzhe0PevIH40+z9Fg1mvvH38kHLMXluYNTFtrYdkI476rn7M96zCon7n9gstL+GzfQLik= Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 06:04:47PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > > + * Atomic-flavor readers run with preemption disabled, so every > > + * read-side critical section is bounded and running (not blocked) on > > + * some CPU, which is what makes spinning here sane: the wait is > > + * bounded by the longest such section. No index flip and no > > + * grace-period sequence update occur, so concurrent call_srcu(), > > + * synchronize_srcu() and srcu_barrier() are entirely unaffected. > > Making synchronize_srcu_atomic() spin in CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT is a > slightly tall request - it's basically putting it on the same level as > raw_spinlock. But if the MMU notifier guys really want to make OOM > notifiers atomic, this would be basically the only way to do so. IMHO it is fine if PREEMPT_RT does something else, just that the normal cases should follow the current arrangment where it is atomic > If instead it's okay to remove nonblock_start/end under > CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT, for RT kernels I'd rather avoid This seems well agreed at least Jason