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From: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: Rakie Kim <rakie.kim@sk.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] mm/mempolicy: introduce package-aware weighted interleave
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2026 21:52:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260817045225.1807518-1-joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aoJY53BJztPQYumw@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 20:46:16 -0400 Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 03:23:48PM +0900, Rakie Kim wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 22:37:06 -0400 Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> wrote:
> > 
> > The cpuset.mems = 0,2 you describe is the node set of package 0, so
> > the tasks in that cgroup use node0 and node2 wherever they run.
> > 
> 
> I think you are over-complicating the explanation and that's making it
> hard for folks to reason about this.
> 
> My best understanding here is for multi-socket systems, weighted
> interleave as-designed is inherently sub-optimal for scaled workloads
> that utilize multi-socket ("package") memory resources (DRAM, CXL...)

I was thinking about this and I think Gregory is right here.

I wonder how much of the framing around this series can be preserved /
simplified if we just say "prevent tasks from allocating memory
cross-socket".

I also wonder if instead of limiting this to weighted interleave,
this can sit on top of other mpols and just nodemasks against
cross-socket nodes.

> I think there is also an assumption that total memory utilization is
> less than the total capacity - otherwise some of the assumptions here
> break, but that comes with the general weighted interleave story.
> 
> I'm getting back from vacation, I will take a closer look this week.

I am also out on vacation this week : -)
I'll take a closer look along with the code next week as well.

Thanks, Rakie and Gregory!
Joshua


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-17  4:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-06  8:09 [PATCH 0/4] mm/mempolicy: introduce package-aware weighted interleave Rakie Kim
2026-08-06  8:09 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm/numa: introduce nearest_nodes_nodemask() Rakie Kim
2026-08-06  8:09 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm/memory-tiers: introduce package-aware topology management for NUMA nodes Rakie Kim
2026-08-06  8:09 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm/memory-tiers: register CXL nodes to memory packages via initiator Rakie Kim
2026-08-06  8:09 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm/mempolicy: enhance weighted interleave with package-aware locality Rakie Kim
2026-08-06 21:38 ` [PATCH 0/4] mm/mempolicy: introduce package-aware weighted interleave Andrew Morton
2026-08-07  4:07   ` Rakie Kim
2026-08-11 15:29 ` Joshua Hahn
2026-08-12  5:46   ` Rakie Kim
2026-08-12 14:49     ` Joshua Hahn
2026-08-13  3:37       ` Rakie Kim
2026-08-12  7:16 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-12  9:18   ` Rakie Kim
2026-08-13  2:37 ` Gregory Price
2026-08-13  6:23   ` Rakie Kim
2026-08-17  0:46     ` Gregory Price
2026-08-17  4:52       ` Joshua Hahn [this message]
2026-08-18  6:01         ` Rakie Kim
2026-08-18  6:01       ` Rakie Kim
2026-08-17 16:19 ` Gregory Price
2026-08-18  6:01   ` Rakie Kim
2026-08-18 13:30     ` Gregory Price
2026-08-19  8:11       ` Rakie Kim

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