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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	David Stevens <stevensd@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
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	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
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	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
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	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC 06/10] Reclaim memory from blocked kernel stacks
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2026 15:17:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260828151747.20035d50@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260828151313.5c4a5e4b@gandalf.local.home>

On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 15:13:13 -0400
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:

> If one worries about stack size, they may want to turn off
> CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_KSTACK_OFFSET as I see some big numbers for do_syscall_64()

And the scheduler has some heavy stack usage here!

  # trace-cmd stack
(stack tracer running)
        Depth    Size   Location    (31 entries)
        -----    ----   --------
  0)     8120      48   __msecs_to_jiffies+0x9/0x30
  1)     8072     104   update_group_capacity+0x94/0x960
  2)     7968     528   update_sd_lb_stats.constprop.0+0x426/0x39b0
  3)     7440     424   sched_balance_find_src_group+0x8f/0x1150
  4)     7016     552   sched_balance_rq+0x934/0x4130
  5)     6464     408   pick_task_fair+0xa71/0x1fe0
  6)     6056     496   __schedule+0x628/0x76f0
  7)     5560      32   schedule+0xde/0x2c0
  8)     5528      32   io_schedule+0x8c/0x100
  9)     5496     256   rq_qos_wait+0x12b/0x230
 10)     5240     136   wbt_wait+0x150/0x260
 11)     5104      40   __rq_qos_throttle+0x51/0xa0
 12)     5064     304   blk_mq_submit_bio+0xc40/0x28e0
 13)     4760     240   submit_bio_noacct_nocheck+0x410/0xb30
 14)     4520      40   ext4_io_submit+0xca/0x1a0
 15)     4480     144   ext4_bio_write_folio+0x5e2/0x1470
 16)     4336      96   mpage_process_page_bufs+0x392/0x700
 17)     4240     616   mpage_prepare_extent_to_map+0xaae/0x1120
 18)     3624     480   ext4_do_writepages+0x971/0x37f0
 19)     3144     312   ext4_writepages+0x2d2/0x610
 20)     2832     152   do_writepages+0x21e/0x560
 21)     2680     184   __writeback_single_inode+0x119/0x1240
 22)     2496     752   writeback_sb_inodes+0x67d/0x17b0
 23)     1744     168   __writeback_inodes_wb+0xf2/0x270
 24)     1576     304   wb_writeback+0x63e/0x890
 25)     1272     320   wb_workfn+0x844/0xca0
 26)      952     360   process_one_work+0x8b4/0x15d0
 27)      592     176   worker_thread+0x5d3/0xfb0
 28)      416      64   kthread+0x33c/0x420
 29)      352     160   ret_from_fork+0x65c/0x9e0
 30)      192     192   ret_from_fork_asm+0x1a/0x30

Note, I'm running this on my server. That is, this is a production machine.

-- Steve


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-28 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-27 23:29 [RFC 00/10] Reclaimable kernel stacks David Stevens
2026-08-27 23:29 ` [RFC 01/10] Add !MEMCG memcg_list_lru_alloc implementation David Stevens
2026-08-27 23:29 ` [RFC 02/10] mm/vmalloc: Skip vmallocinfo NUMA stats for VM_SPARSE David Stevens
2026-08-27 23:29 ` [RFC 03/10] fork: refactor vmap stack alloc/free into helpers David Stevens
2026-08-27 23:29 ` [RFC 04/10] mm: vmalloc: support creating aligned vm areas David Stevens
2026-08-27 23:29 ` [RFC 05/10] fork: allocate reclaimable stacks with VM_SPARSE David Stevens
2026-08-27 23:29 ` [RFC 06/10] Reclaim memory from blocked kernel stacks David Stevens
2026-08-28 11:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 12:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 12:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-29  0:18     ` David Stevens
2026-08-28 12:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 12:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 23:33     ` David Stevens
2026-08-28 13:36   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-28 13:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 14:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 15:58         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-28 15:10       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-28 19:08         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-28 19:13           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-28 19:17             ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2026-08-28 20:50       ` David Stevens
2026-08-28 21:17     ` David Stevens
2026-08-27 23:29 ` [RFC 07/10] Reclaim stacks via a shrinker David Stevens
2026-08-27 23:29 ` [RFC 08/10] Set PF_RECLAIMABLE_STACK in various places David Stevens
2026-08-28  6:33   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-08-27 23:29 ` [RFC 09/10] x86: Enable reclaimable stacks David Stevens
2026-08-27 23:29 ` [RFC 10/10] arm64: " David Stevens
2026-08-28 12:47 ` [RFC 00/10] Reclaimable kernel stacks Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 14:33   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-28 14:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 14:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-28 16:10         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-28 17:58   ` David Stevens

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