From: Nathan Gao <zcgao@amazon.com>
To: <sj@kernel.org>
Cc: <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
<damon@lists.linux.dev>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-mm@kvack.org>, <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
<zcgao@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/damon: use a page-aligned sampling address
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2026 18:04:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260829010455.28607-1-zcgao@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260828002211.61987-1-sj@kernel.org>
Hi SJ,
Thanks for your review!
On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 17:22:11 -0700 SJ Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello Nathan,
>
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 12:38:21 -0700 Nathan Gao <zcgao@amazon.com> wrote:
>
> > __damon_va_prepare_access_check() picks a random byte address within the
> > region and stores it in r->sampling_addr. There are two users of
> > r->sampling_addr in vaddr.c that pass it into a page table walk, and
> > both use it as the address of a page.
> >
> > damon_va_mkold(mm, r->sampling_addr)
> > damon_va_walk_page_range(mm, addr, addr + 1)
> > damon_mkold_pmd_entry()
> > damon_ptep_mkold(pte, vma, addr)
> > ptep_test_and_clear_young(vma, addr, pte)
> > mmu_notifier_clear_young(mm, addr, addr + PAGE_SIZE)
> >
> > damon_va_young(mm, r->sampling_addr, &folio_sz)
> > damon_va_walk_page_range(mm, addr, addr + 1)
> > damon_young_pmd_entry()
> > ptep_get(pte)
> > mmu_notifier_test_young(walk->mm, addr)
> >
> > test_and_clear_young_ptes(), which backs ptep_test_and_clear_young() on
> > arm64, documents @addr as "Address the first page is mapped at".
> >
> > For arm64, before commit 6f0e1142173a ("arm64: mm: support batch
> > clearing of the young flag for large folios"),
>
> The @addr documentation is also introduced by this commit. This commit is
> authored at 2026-02-09.
>
> > the contpte helper walked
> > exactly CONT_PTES entries from the aligned-down page table pointer and
> > used @addr only to pass down to each entry, so an unaligned value was
> > harmless:
> >
> > ptep = contpte_align_down(ptep);
> > addr = ALIGN_DOWN(addr, CONT_PTE_SIZE);
> > for (i = 0; i < CONT_PTES; i++, ptep++, addr += PAGE_SIZE)
>
> So, there was no issue before the commit.
>
Right. Before 6f0e1142173a, unaligned addresses were tolerated but I don't
think this is guaranteed.
> >
> > Align the sampled address down to a page boundary. It is the address of
> > the page to sample, so this matches its intended meaning and fixes both
> > users in vaddr.c.
>
> This indeed sounds like can fix the issue to me. However, was it a clear rule
> that we should pass only contepte-aligned addrss to
> ptep_test_and_clear_young()? And is DAMON the only ptep_test_and_clear_young()
> caller that is mistakenly passing the unaligned address?
>
It is not spelled out as an explicit rule, but the documented "Address
the first page is mapped at" implies it, and these callers are using
aligned addresses:
mm/page_idle.c: page_idle_clear_pte_refs_one()
fs/proc/task_mmu.c: clear_refs_pte_range()
> If not, it might make sense to make contpte_test_and_clear_young_ptes() support
> unaligned adress again in my opinion. May I ask your opinion, Baolin?
>
> >
> > Fixes: 3f49584b262c ("mm/damon: implement primitives for the virtual memory address spaces")
>
> I think 6f0e1142173a ("arm64: mm: support batch clearing of the young flag for
> large folios") would be mroe correct 'Fixes:', if there was no issue before the
> commit.
>
Will use that in v2.
> > - r->sampling_addr = damon_rand(ctx, r->ar.start, r->ar.end);
> > + r->sampling_addr = PAGE_ALIGN_DOWN(damon_rand(ctx, r->ar.start,
> > + r->ar.end));
>
> If we need to have the fix in DAMON, this kind of change would be needed.
>
> However, what happens if the address is backed by large folios?
>
> Before the commit 6f0e1142173a, also, it was aligning to CONT_PTE_SIZE. Should
> we do same?
Passing a page-aligned address restores the pre-6f0e1142173a behavior.
Before the change, the helper aligned ptep down to the block start and
walked a fixed CONT_PTES entries, regardless of addr. After the
change, the walk covers [ALIGN_DOWN(addr, CONT_PTE_SIZE),
ALIGN(addr + nr * PAGE_SIZE, CONT_PTE_SIZE)). With a sub-page offset,
addr + PAGE_SIZE lands just past the block boundary, so the round-up
extends the walk a whole block further. With a page-aligned addr,
addr + PAGE_SIZE is at most the block end, so the round-up lands
exactly on the block end and the walk covers the same CONT_PTES
entries as before the commit.
We also can't align to CONT_PTE_SIZE in DAMON since it's defined only under
arch/arm64/:
#define CONT_PTES (1 << (CONT_PTE_SHIFT - PAGE_SHIFT))
#define CONT_PTE_SIZE (CONT_PTES * PAGE_SIZE)
> Also, I think we should pass aligned address to only the functions that
> require alignement. Making the alignment to the sampling address in general
> sounds too much to me. Particularly, we are working on supporting new page
> access check primitives other than PTE Accessed bit, like AMd IBS. In the
> case, we might support <PAGE_SIZE granularity monitoring. Aligning sampling
> address in general will make it more complicated.
Makes sense. I will keep sampling_addr as is and align inside damon_va_mkold()
and damon_va_young() in v2.
Thanks,
Nathan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-29 1:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-27 19:38 [PATCH] mm/damon: use a page-aligned sampling address Nathan Gao
2026-08-28 0:22 ` SJ Park
2026-08-29 1:04 ` Nathan Gao [this message]
2026-08-29 1:55 ` SJ Park
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