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From: Liew Rui Yan <aethernet65535@gmail.com>
To: sj@kernel.org
Cc: aethernet65535@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	damon@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/damon/core: allow esz to be set to zero
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 2026 07:12:15 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260902231311.17490-1-aethernet65535@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260902150301.88535-1-sj@kernel.org>

On Wed, 02 Sep 2026 08:03:00 -0700 SJ Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Wed,  2 Sep 2026 22:35:20 +0800 Liew Rui Yan <aethernet65535@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 02 Sep 2026 07:13:48 -0700 SJ Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed,  2 Sep 2026 16:20:50 +0800 Liew Rui Yan <aethernet65535@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > When the temporal quota goal tuner determines that the goal has been
> > > > achieved (score >= 10000), it sets esz_bp to zero so that the effective
> > > > quota (esz) becomes zero.  However, damos_set_effective_quota() clamps
> > > > the quota to min_region_sz, preventing the quota from ever reaching
> > > > zero.
> > > 
> > > Where in the code it is clamped to min_region_sz, when?  And what user issue
> > > this can cause?
> > 
> > In damos_set_effective_quota(), when quota->ms is set.
> 
> Please clarify this kind of thing (when quota->ms is set) from the next time.
> 
> > 
> > '''
> > 	if (quota->ms) {
> > 		if (quota->total_charged_ns)
> > 			throughput = mult_frac(quota->total_charged_sz,
> > 					1000000, quota->total_charged_ns);
> > 		else
> > 			throughput = PAGE_SIZE * 1024;
> > 		esz = min(throughput * quota->ms, esz);
> > 		esz = max(ctx->min_region_sz, esz); /* <- HERE */
> > 	}
> > '''
> > 
> > This is a minor issue, the main problem is that it doesn't match the
> > description in the documentation, which states that if the goal has
> > already been [over-]achieved, the quota will be set to 0.
> > 
> > Original documentation:
> > 
> >     - ``temporal``: More straightforward algorithm.  Tries to achieve the goal as
> >     fast as possible, using maximum allowed quota, but only for a temporal short
> >     time.  When the quota is under-achieved, this algorithm keeps tuning quota to
> >     a maximum allowed one.  Once the quota is [over]-achieved, this sets the
> >     quota zero.  Useful for deterministic control required environments.
> 
> Thank you for clarifying.  Please clarify what is the problem like this from
> the next time.  Without it, reviewing spend unnecessary time.

Noted.  I will ensure future commit messages and descriptions clearly
state the triggering conditions and potential user impact to make the
review process more efficient.

> 
> I feel like your recent patches tend to lack such clarifications and spend
> unnecessary time for reviewing.  If you unsure, please ask questions first or
> use RFC tag at least.

Understood.  I will use the RFC tag or ask questions first when the
nature of the issue is ambiguous.

> 
> I agree this behavior is not matching with the documented one.  The point of
> quota is making DAMOS not unnecessarily aggressive.  Hence it is designed to be
> set as minimum as possible.  How about below?
> 
> '''
> --- a/mm/damon/core.c
> +++ b/mm/damon/core.c
> @@ -3485,6 +3485,7 @@ static void damos_set_effective_quota(struct damon_ctx *ctx, struct damos *s)
>         struct damos_quota *quota = &s->quota;
>         unsigned long throughput;
>         unsigned long esz = ULONG_MAX;
> +       unsigned long esz_time;
> 
>         if (!quota->ms && list_empty(&quota->goals)) {
>                 quota->esz = quota->sz;
> @@ -3505,8 +3506,8 @@ static void damos_set_effective_quota(struct damon_ctx *ctx, struct damos *s)
>                                         1000000, quota->total_charged_ns);
>                 else
>                         throughput = PAGE_SIZE * 1024;
> -               esz = min(throughput * quota->ms, esz);
> -               esz = max(ctx->min_region_sz, esz);
> +               esz_time = max(throughput * quota->ms, ctx->min_region_sz);
> +               esz = min(esz_time, esz);
>         }
> 
>         if (quota->sz && quota->sz < esz)
> '''

This solution is much better than my initial approach.

I will incorporate this change into the next version.  Thank you for the
review and the improved fix!

Best regards,
Rui Yan


      reply	other threads:[~2026-09-02 23:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-02  8:20 [PATCH v2] mm/damon/core: allow esz to be set to zero Liew Rui Yan
2026-09-02 14:13 ` SJ Park
2026-09-02 14:35   ` Liew Rui Yan
2026-09-02 15:03     ` SJ Park
2026-09-02 23:12       ` Liew Rui Yan [this message]

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