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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm: memory-failure: fix HWPoison flag race with non-atomic page flag ops
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2026 19:04:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20a5dfd4-b3c7-450a-8a70-08d0345aade4@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <akKjOG6iFhGNTFYC@firstfloor.org>

On 6/29/26 18:54, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> However, this was a basic test, when allocating 4k pages. With 2M hugepages:
>>
>>                                    insns/iter    cycles/iter
>>      -------------------------------------------------------
>>        base                       20758 +/- 12.5   191208 +/-1946.6
>>        rcu                        20785 +/-  3.7   197108 +/- 132.1
>>        atomic                     20727 +/-  6.4   204591 +/- 160.2
>>
>>        rcu vs base                  +27 (+0.13%)     +5900 (+3.09%)
>>        atomic vs base               -31 (-0.15%)    +13383 (+7.00%)
>>
>> and even with THP:
>>
>>                                    insns/iter    cycles/iter
>>      -------------------------------------------------------
>>        base                       27220 +/-  2.8   192151 +/- 483.3
>>        rcu                        27248 +/- 30.1   194159 +/-2746.6
>>        atomic                     27186 +/-  3.2   200526 +/- 746.2
>>
>>        rcu vs base                  +28 (+0.10%)     +2008 (+1.04%)
>>        atomic vs base               -34 (-0.12%)     +8374 (+4.36%)
>>
>>
>> needs more thought.
> 
> Well the alternative is to not bother with RCU, but just wait a bit and
> check if the bit stuck and repeat if needed. While that could in theory
> livelock it is extremely unlikely (especially if you add a bit of randomization 
> to the sleep)

We discussed that a bit already. Hypervisors make it fairly unpredictable how
long you would actually have to spin.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-29 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-28 21:45 [PATCH 0/2] mm: memory-failure: fix HWPoison flag race with non-atomic page flag ops Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-28 21:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: memory-failure: use RCU to fix HWPoison flag race Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-28 21:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: wrap non-atomic page flag ops in RCU for HWPoison safety Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29  2:11 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: memory-failure: fix HWPoison flag race with non-atomic page flag ops Andi Kleen
2026-06-29  8:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29  8:21     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29  8:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 16:54       ` Andi Kleen
2026-06-29 17:04         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-06-29  6:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29  7:34   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-29 13:05     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 20:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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