From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
Cc: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
baoquan.he@linux.dev, chrisl@kernel.org, jp.kobryn@linux.dev,
kasong@tencent.com, liam@infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org, mhocko@suse.com,
nphamcs@gmail.com, rppt@kernel.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
shikemeng@huaweicloud.com, surenb@google.com,
usama.arif@linux.dev, vbabka@kernel.org, youngjun.park@lge.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: try to free swapcache for non-LRU folios
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 22:09:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <22f9bdf3-576e-4146-89c7-64960207c5d2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4yE-U5ox5y+brDBxEoc2uympQ7JBRqgD5OsqqX-u_6t=w@mail.gmail.com>
On 7/1/26 11:50, Barry Song wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2026 at 4:18 PM David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org> wrote:
> [...]
>>>
>>> The newly allocated folio will likely still be sitting in this
>>> CPU's local LRU cache. If we drop the drain in patch 1, it seems
>>> there is little point in calling do_wp_page() from
>>> do_swap_page(), since we won't be able to reuse the folio while
>>> it remains in the local LRU cache.
>>
>> Well, we call do_wp_page() here to avoid another page fault where we would end
>> up in do_wp_page() and actually break COW.
>
> Yep. We still need do_wp_page() to handle CoW, but we could
> actually reuse the folio if we don't drop the LRU drain.
>
>>
>>>
>>> So I'm wondering whether we should keep the drain in
>>> patch 1 by checking for a refcount of 3, or instead do
>>> something like the following in patch 4:
>>>
>>>
>>> if ((vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_WRITE) && !pte_write(pte)) {
>>> lru_add_drain();
>>> ret |= do_wp_page(vmf);
>>> if (ret & VM_FAULT_ERROR)
>>> ret &= VM_FAULT_ERROR;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Otherwise, the combination of patches 1 and 4 seems somewhat
>>> inconsistent. It feels like a strange mix of sweet, spicy,
>>> hot, and cold—kind of contradictory :-)
>>
>> Yes, this needs a proper thought.
>>
>> What you describe is relevant for
>>
>> e.g.,
>>
>> swapout
>> fork -> exclusive bit cleared
>> child exit -> parent is single user
>> swapin -> added to swapcache and LRU cache
>>
>>
>> This is not very odd, so we should keep that working (I think I have
>> micro-benchmarks for that).
>
> Maybe the simplest approach is to keep the drain in patch 1 and
> just make the code improvements you suggested in [1]?
Yeah, probably best for that scenario.
--
Cheers,
David
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-01 20:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-23 23:16 [PATCH v2 0/4] mm: drop redundant lru_add_drain in anon folio reuse paths Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-23 23:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: avoid unnecessary lru drain for wp_can_reuse_anon_folio() Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-24 10:14 ` Kairui Song
2026-06-24 15:02 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-24 21:04 ` Barry Song
2026-06-26 16:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-27 2:44 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-27 7:20 ` Barry Song
2026-06-29 7:52 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 23:16 ` Barry Song
2026-06-30 5:38 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-23 23:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: drop stale folio_ref_count()==1 check in do_swap_page reuse logic Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-24 15:07 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-24 21:29 ` Barry Song
2026-06-23 23:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm: entirely remove lru_add_drain in do_swap_page Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-24 10:16 ` Kairui Song
2026-06-24 15:10 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-23 23:16 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: try to free swapcache for non-LRU folios Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-24 15:20 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-24 21:14 ` Barry Song
2026-06-25 14:40 ` Kairui Song
2026-06-26 16:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 23:59 ` Barry Song
2026-06-30 5:48 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-30 22:36 ` Barry Song
2026-07-01 8:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-01 9:50 ` Barry Song
2026-07-01 20:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
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