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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
Cc: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	baoquan.he@linux.dev, chrisl@kernel.org, jp.kobryn@linux.dev,
	kasong@tencent.com, liam@infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org, mhocko@suse.com,
	nphamcs@gmail.com, rppt@kernel.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	shikemeng@huaweicloud.com, surenb@google.com,
	usama.arif@linux.dev, vbabka@kernel.org, youngjun.park@lge.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: try to free swapcache for non-LRU folios
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 22:09:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22f9bdf3-576e-4146-89c7-64960207c5d2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4yE-U5ox5y+brDBxEoc2uympQ7JBRqgD5OsqqX-u_6t=w@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/1/26 11:50, Barry Song wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2026 at 4:18 PM David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org> wrote:
> [...]
>>>
>>> The newly allocated folio will likely still be sitting in this
>>> CPU's local LRU cache. If we drop the drain in patch 1, it seems
>>> there is little point in calling do_wp_page() from
>>> do_swap_page(), since we won't be able to reuse the folio while
>>> it remains in the local LRU cache.
>>
>> Well, we call do_wp_page() here to avoid another page fault where we would end
>> up in do_wp_page() and actually break COW.
> 
> Yep. We still need do_wp_page() to handle CoW, but we could
> actually reuse the folio if we don't drop the LRU drain.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> So I'm wondering whether we should keep the drain in
>>> patch 1 by checking for a refcount of 3, or instead do
>>> something like the following in patch 4:
>>>
>>>
>>>         if ((vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_WRITE) && !pte_write(pte)) {
>>>                  lru_add_drain();
>>>                  ret |= do_wp_page(vmf);
>>>                  if (ret & VM_FAULT_ERROR)
>>>                          ret &= VM_FAULT_ERROR;
>>>        }
>>>
>>> Otherwise, the combination of patches 1 and 4 seems somewhat
>>> inconsistent. It feels like a strange mix of sweet, spicy,
>>> hot, and cold—kind of contradictory :-)
>>
>> Yes, this needs a proper thought.
>>
>> What you describe is relevant for
>>
>> e.g.,
>>
>> swapout
>> fork -> exclusive bit cleared
>> child exit -> parent is single user
>> swapin -> added to swapcache and LRU cache
>>
>>
>> This is not very odd, so we should keep that working (I think I have
>> micro-benchmarks for that).
> 
> Maybe the simplest approach is to keep the drain in patch 1 and
> just make the code improvements you suggested in [1]?

Yeah, probably best for that scenario.

-- 
Cheers,

David


      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-01 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-23 23:16 [PATCH v2 0/4] mm: drop redundant lru_add_drain in anon folio reuse paths Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-23 23:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: avoid unnecessary lru drain for wp_can_reuse_anon_folio() Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-24 10:14   ` Kairui Song
2026-06-24 15:02   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-24 21:04     ` Barry Song
2026-06-26 16:25       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-27  2:44         ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-27  7:20           ` Barry Song
2026-06-29  7:52             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 23:16               ` Barry Song
2026-06-30  5:38                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-23 23:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: drop stale folio_ref_count()==1 check in do_swap_page reuse logic Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-24 15:07   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-24 21:29     ` Barry Song
2026-06-23 23:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm: entirely remove lru_add_drain in do_swap_page Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-24 10:16   ` Kairui Song
2026-06-24 15:10   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-23 23:16 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: try to free swapcache for non-LRU folios Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-24 15:20   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-24 21:14     ` Barry Song
2026-06-25 14:40       ` Kairui Song
2026-06-26 16:35         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-29 23:59           ` Barry Song
2026-06-30  5:48             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-30 22:36               ` Barry Song
2026-07-01  8:18                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-01  9:50                   ` Barry Song
2026-07-01 20:09                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]

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