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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Ujwal Kundur <ujwal.kundur@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: Introduce vm_uffd_ops API
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 11:34:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <289eede1-d47d-49a2-b9b6-ff8050d84893@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGbCbW7hUf3a2do2@kernel.org>

On 03.07.25 19:48, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 03:46:57PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 08:39:32PM +0300, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> The main target of this change is the implementation of UFFD for
>>>> KVM/guest_memfd (examples: [1], [2]) to avoid bringing KVM-specific code
>>>> into the mm codebase.  We usually mean KVM by the "drivers" in this context,
>>>> and it is already somewhat "knowledgeable" of the mm.  I don't think there
>>>> are existing use cases for other drivers to implement this at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> Although I can't see new exports in this series, there is now a way to limit
>>>> exports to particular modules [3].  Would it help if we only do it for KVM
>>>> initially (if/when actually needed)?
>>>
>>> There were talks about pulling out guest_memfd core into mm, but I don't
>>> remember patches about it. If parts of guest_memfd were already in mm/ that
>>> would make easier to export uffd ops to it.
>>
>> Do we have a link to such discussion?  I'm also curious whether that idea
>> was acknowledged by KVM maintainers.
> 
> AFAIR it was discussed at one of David's guest_memfd calls

While it was discussed in the call a couple of times in different 
context (guest_memfd as a library / guest_memfd shim), I think we 
already discussed it back at LPC last year.

One of the main reasons for doing that is supporting guest_memfd in 
other hypervisors -- the gunyah hypervisor in the kernel wants to make 
use of it as well.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-04  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-27 15:46 [PATCH v2 0/4] mm/userfaultfd: modulize memory types Peter Xu
2025-06-27 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: Introduce vm_uffd_ops API Peter Xu
2025-06-29  8:50   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-02 19:30     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-30 10:15   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-01 17:04     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-02 15:40       ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-02 15:56       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-02 17:08         ` Nikita Kalyazin
2025-07-02 17:39           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-02 19:46             ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 17:48               ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-04  9:34                 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-07-04 14:59                   ` Peter Xu
2025-07-04 19:39                     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-01 16:01                       ` Nikita Kalyazin
2025-07-02 21:24           ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-02 21:36             ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03  2:00               ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-03 15:24                 ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 16:15                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-03 17:39                   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-07-02 20:24         ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 16:32           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-02 18:16       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-02 20:22         ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 15:01           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-03 15:45             ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 16:01               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-27 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm/shmem: Support " Peter Xu
2025-06-29  8:51   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-27 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm/hugetlb: " Peter Xu
2025-06-29  8:52   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-27 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: Apply vm_uffd_ops API to core mm Peter Xu
2025-06-29  8:55   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-02 20:38     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-30 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] mm/userfaultfd: modulize memory types Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-01  0:15   ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-02 20:36   ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 15:55     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-03 16:26       ` Peter Xu
2025-07-03 16:44         ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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