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From: "MinChan Kim" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: "Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	"Balbir Singh" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"KOSAKI Motohiro" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Rik van Riel" <riel@surriel.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Cc: Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	arve@google.com, San Mehat <san@android.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Robert Love <rlove@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: lowmemory android driver not needed?
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:45:35 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28c262360901132245j8fe121naf1d6b1450b4cade@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6200be20901131830r7103ff8eoe0314f9faf89d89b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Arve.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@android.com> wrote:
> The oom killer does not kick in until all caches are emptied. Our user
> space code changes the oom_adj value of processes that are no longer
> in the foreground so that they killed first (the process saves its
> state but does not exit). To avoid excessive demand paging, the low
> memory killer will kill these processes when the memory available
> drops below a threshold.


It have some problems. (drivers/staging/android/lwmemorykiller.c)

1. lowmem_shrink function have to answer about vm's query the cache size fast.
2. it don't consider page size and memory size when it make
lowmem_minfree's values.
3. If system have many processes, for_each_process take a long time.
it may result system latency although lowmemkiller intend to avoid
latency.
4. Most important thing. Could we use memory controller instead of
lowmemkiller ? I am not sure since I don't follow up memory controller
in these days.

I think we have to use existing facility if possible.
Previously, There are similar kinds of patches. but It can't merge
mainline due to some issue.  They can comment about lowmemkiller. I
will CC them.

> --
> Arve Hjønnevåg
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> Looping in Arve who wrote the low memory killer and can explain things
>> in more detail.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> [Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>]
>>> Hi San,
>>>
>>> Alan Cox pointed me at the /proc/<pid>/oom_adj file that controls the
>>> oom-killer score for any process as being more than sufficent to control
>>> the oom killer.
>>>
>>> This makes me wonder why you wrote the android lowmemlorykiller driver?
>>>
>>> What is that driver for that is not already present in the existing
>>> oom_* values for every process?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> greg k-h
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-- 
Kinds regards,
MinChan Kim

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