From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] Don't continue reclaim if the system have plenty free memory
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:58:59 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <28c262360907090358q7cdbd067y22b7312c489e7598@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090709140234.239F.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:08 PM, KOSAKI
Motohiro<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> Hi, Kosaki.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM, KOSAKI
>> Motohiro<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> > Subject: [PATCH] Don't continue reclaim if the system have plenty free memory
>> >
>> > On concurrent reclaim situation, if one reclaimer makes OOM, maybe other
>> > reclaimer can stop reclaim because OOM killer makes enough free memory.
>> >
>> > But current kernel doesn't have its logic. Then, we can face following accidental
>> > 2nd OOM scenario.
>> >
>> > 1. System memory is used by only one big process.
>> > 2. memory shortage occur and concurrent reclaim start.
>> > 3. One reclaimer makes OOM and OOM killer kill above big process.
>> > 4. Almost reclaimable page will be freed.
>> > 5. Another reclaimer can't find any reclaimable page because those pages are
>> > ? already freed.
>> > 6. Then, system makes accidental and unnecessary 2nd OOM killer.
>> >
>>
>> Did you see the this situation ?
>> Why I ask is that we have already a routine for preventing parallel
>> OOM killing in __alloc_pages_may_oom.
>>
>> Couldn't it protect your scenario ?
>
> Can you please see actual code of this patch?
I mean follow as,
static inline struct page *
__alloc_pages_may_oom(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
struct zonelist *zonelist, enum zone_type high_zoneidx,
...
<snip>
/*
* Go through the zonelist yet one more time, keep very high watermark
* here, this is only to catch a parallel oom killing, we must fail if
* we're still under heavy pressure.
*/
page = get_page_from_freelist(gfp_mask|__GFP_HARDWALL, nodemask,
order, zonelist, high_zoneidx,
ALLOC_WMARK_HIGH|ALLOC_CPUSET,
preferred_zone, migratetype);
> Those two patches fix different problem.
>
> 1/2 fixes the issue of that concurrent direct reclaimer makes
> too many isolated pages.
> 2/2 fixes the issue of that reclaim and exit race makes accidental oom.
>
>
>> If it can't, Could you explain the scenario in more detail ?
>
> __alloc_pages_may_oom() check don't effect the threads of already
> entered reclaim. it's obvious.
Threads which are entered into direct reclaim mode will call
__alloc_pages_may_oom before out_of_memory.
At that time, if one big process is killed a while ago,
get_page_from_freelist in __alloc_pages_may_oom will be succeeded at
last. So I think it doesn't occur OOM.
But in that case, we suffered from unnecessary page scanning per each
priority(12~0). So in this case, your patch is good to me. then you
would be better to change log. :)
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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-09 10:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-07 9:40 [RFC PATCH 0/2] fix unnecessary accidental OOM problem on concurrent reclaim KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07 9:47 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] vmscan don't isolate too many pages KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07 13:23 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-07 18:59 ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-08 3:19 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-09 1:51 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] vmscan don't isolate too many pages in a zone Rik van Riel
2009-07-09 2:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-09 3:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-09 7:01 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-09 8:42 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-09 11:07 ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-09 6:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] vmscan don't isolate too many pages Minchan Kim
2009-07-09 3:12 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07 9:48 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] Don't continue reclaim if the system have plenty free memory KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07 13:20 ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-09 5:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-09 10:58 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2009-07-13 0:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
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