linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] Don't continue reclaim if the system have plenty free memory
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:58:59 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28c262360907090358q7cdbd067y22b7312c489e7598@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090709140234.239F.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:08 PM, KOSAKI
Motohiro<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> Hi, Kosaki.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM, KOSAKI
>> Motohiro<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> > Subject: [PATCH] Don't continue reclaim if the system have plenty free memory
>> >
>> > On concurrent reclaim situation, if one reclaimer makes OOM, maybe other
>> > reclaimer can stop reclaim because OOM killer makes enough free memory.
>> >
>> > But current kernel doesn't have its logic. Then, we can face following accidental
>> > 2nd OOM scenario.
>> >
>> > 1. System memory is used by only one big process.
>> > 2. memory shortage occur and concurrent reclaim start.
>> > 3. One reclaimer makes OOM and OOM killer kill above big process.
>> > 4. Almost reclaimable page will be freed.
>> > 5. Another reclaimer can't find any reclaimable page because those pages are
>> > ? already freed.
>> > 6. Then, system makes accidental and unnecessary 2nd OOM killer.
>> >
>>
>> Did you see the this situation ?
>> Why I ask is that we have already a routine for preventing parallel
>> OOM killing in __alloc_pages_may_oom.
>>
>> Couldn't it protect your scenario ?
>
> Can you please see actual code of this patch?

I mean follow as,

static inline struct page *
__alloc_pages_may_oom(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
        struct zonelist *zonelist, enum zone_type high_zoneidx,
...
<snip>

        /*
         * Go through the zonelist yet one more time, keep very high watermark
         * here, this is only to catch a parallel oom killing, we must fail if
         * we're still under heavy pressure.
         */
        page = get_page_from_freelist(gfp_mask|__GFP_HARDWALL, nodemask,
                order, zonelist, high_zoneidx,
                ALLOC_WMARK_HIGH|ALLOC_CPUSET,
                preferred_zone, migratetype);


> Those two patches fix different problem.
>
> 1/2 fixes the issue of that concurrent direct reclaimer makes
> too many isolated pages.
> 2/2 fixes the issue of that reclaim and exit race makes accidental oom.
>
>
>> If it can't, Could you explain the scenario in more detail ?
>
> __alloc_pages_may_oom() check don't effect the threads of already
> entered reclaim. it's obvious.

Threads which are entered into direct reclaim mode will call
__alloc_pages_may_oom before out_of_memory.
At that time, if one big process is killed a while ago,
get_page_from_freelist in __alloc_pages_may_oom will be succeeded at
last. So I think it doesn't occur OOM.

But in that case, we suffered from unnecessary page scanning per each
priority(12~0). So in this case, your patch is good to me. then you
would be better to change log. :)

-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-09 10:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-07  9:40 [RFC PATCH 0/2] fix unnecessary accidental OOM problem on concurrent reclaim KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07  9:47 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] vmscan don't isolate too many pages KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07 13:23   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-07 18:59   ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-08  3:19     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-09  1:51       ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] vmscan don't isolate too many pages in a zone Rik van Riel
2009-07-09  2:47         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-09  3:07           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-09  7:01             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-09  8:42               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-09 11:07                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-09  6:39         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07 23:39   ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] vmscan don't isolate too many pages Minchan Kim
2009-07-09  3:12     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07  9:48 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] Don't continue reclaim if the system have plenty free memory KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07 13:20   ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-09  5:08     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-09 10:58       ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2009-07-13  0:37         ` KOSAKI Motohiro

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=28c262360907090358q7cdbd067y22b7312c489e7598@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=minchan.kim@gmail.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=fengguang.wu@intel.com \
    --cc=kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=riel@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).