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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] Direct compact when a high-order allocation fails
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:25:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28c262361003240525v51a78880u63680bf576d1b618@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100324120930.GH21147@csn.ul.ie>

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 08:59:45PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 08:10:40AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> >> Hi, Mel.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
>> >> > Ordinarily when a high-order allocation fails, direct reclaim is entered to
>> >> > free pages to satisfy the allocation.  With this patch, it is determined if
>> >> > an allocation failed due to external fragmentation instead of low memory
>> >> > and if so, the calling process will compact until a suitable page is
>> >> > freed. Compaction by moving pages in memory is considerably cheaper than
>> >> > paging out to disk and works where there are locked pages or no swap. If
>> >> > compaction fails to free a page of a suitable size, then reclaim will
>> >> > still occur.
>> >> >
>> >> > Direct compaction returns as soon as possible. As each block is compacted,
>> >> > it is checked if a suitable page has been freed and if so, it returns.
>> >> >
>> >> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
>> >> > Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>

<snip>

>> You're right. I just wanted to change the name as one which imply
>> direct compaction.
>
> I think I'd fully agree with your point if there was more than one way to
> stall a process due to compaction. As it is, direct compaction is the only
> way to meaningfully stall a process and I can't think of alternative stalls
> in the future. Technically, a process using the sysfs or proc triggers for
> compaction also stalls but it's not interesting to count those events.
>
>> That's because I believe we will implement it by backgroud, too.
>
> This is a possibility but in that case it would be a separate process
> like kcompactd and I wouldn't count it as a stall as such.
>
>> Then It's more straightforward, I think. :-)
>>
>> > How about COMPACTSTALL like ALLOCSTALL? :/
>>
>> I wouldn't have a strong objection any more if you insist on it.
>>
>
> I'm not insisting as such, I just don't think renaming it to
> PGSCAN_COMPACT_X would be easier to understand.

Totally, I agree with your opinion.
>From now on, I don't have any objection.




-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-24 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-23 12:25 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v5 Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm,migration: Take a reference to the anon_vma before migrating Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm,migration: Do not try to migrate unmapped anonymous pages Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:22   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:04     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 03/11] mm: Share the anon_vma ref counts between KSM and page migration Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:25   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 23:55   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 04/11] Allow CONFIG_MIGRATION to be set without CONFIG_NUMA or memory hot-remove Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 05/11] Export unusable free space index via /proc/unusable_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:14     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24  0:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  0:16     ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  0:13       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 10:25     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 06/11] Export fragmentation index via /proc/extfrag_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:37   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 07/11] Memory compaction core Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:56   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:15     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:33       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:58         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 19:20           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24  1:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  1:47     ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  1:53       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  2:10         ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 10:57           ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-24 20:59     ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 21:14       ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-24 21:19         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 21:19       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:28         ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 21:47           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:54             ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 22:06               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:57             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-25  9:13     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 08/11] Add /proc trigger for memory compaction Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:25   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:32     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-26 10:46     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 09/11] Add /sys trigger for per-node " Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 22:45   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  0:19   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 10/11] Direct compact when a high-order allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 23:10   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 11:11     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 11:59       ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 12:06         ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 12:10           ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 12:09         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 12:25           ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-03-24  1:19   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 11:40     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  0:30       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25  9:48         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  9:50           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 10:16             ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-26  1:03               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-26  9:40                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:48   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-25  0:57     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 10:21     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:39     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 19:27       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 10:37         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 19:54           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 20:53   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-25  9:40     ` Mel Gorman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-03-12 16:41 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v4 Mel Gorman
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 10/11] Direct compact when a high-order allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-03-16  2:47   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-19  6:21   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-19  6:31     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-19 10:10       ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25 11:22         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-19 10:09     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25 11:08       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-25 15:11         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-26  6:01           ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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