From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: 贺中坤 <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>
Cc: minchan@kernel.org, senozhatsky@chromium.org, mhocko@suse.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] zram: charge the compressed RAM to the page's memcgroup
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 16:46:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <290d79bb-b1a6-3146-76a7-9938829e6ebe@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACSyD1NfbD_YBADH-3bR0=sGkrkEqxfgYLvyNyTiWdTvw2R6vA@mail.gmail.com>
On 15.06.23 15:40, 贺中坤 wrote:
>> I suspect for the swap->zram we should always get charged pages, because
>> we're effectively writing out charged anon/shmem pages only -- without
>> any buffer in between.
>
> Hi David,the charged memory will be released in swap->zram. New pages
> are allocated by alloc_zspage(), and we did not charge the page directly,but
> the objects(like slab), because the zspage are shared by any memcg.
>
>>
>> For the fs->zram or direct zram access device case I'm not so sure. It
>> highly depends on what gets mapped into the bio (e.g., a kernel buffer,
>> zeropage, ...). If it's a pagecache page, that should be charged and
>> we're good. No so sure about fs metadata or some other fs cases (e.g.,
>> write() to a file that bypass the pagecache).
>>
>
> Yes, the pagecaches are charged in fs->zram, but will be released if
> we drop the cache. the compressed objects are not charged.
Yes. But just to stress again, one issue I see is that if there is a
page in the BIO that is not charged, you cannot charge the compressed page.
Assume you have some FS on that zram block device and you want to make
sure it gets properly charged to whoever is reading/writing a file on
that filesystem. (imagine something like a compress shmem)
If a user (or the filesystem?) can trigger a BIO that has an uncharged
page in it, it would not get charged accordingly.
The "easy" reproducer would have been O_DIRECT write() using the shared
zeropage, but zram_write_page() is smart enough to optimize for that
case (page_same_filled()). :)
Maybe I'm over-thinking this (well, the we do have partial I/O support,
so something seems to be able to trigger such cases), and it would be
great if someone with more FS->BIO experience could comment.
I'll note that this is fundamentally different to zswap, because with
zswap you don't get arbitrary BIOs, you get an anon or shmem page (that
should be charged).
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-15 14:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-15 3:48 [RFC PATCH 1/3] zram: charge the compressed RAM to the page's memcgroup Zhongkun He
2023-06-15 4:59 ` Yu Zhao
2023-06-15 8:57 ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-15 10:00 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:14 ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-16 1:39 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16 4:40 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-16 7:37 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16 7:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-16 8:04 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16 8:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-16 8:39 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-15 9:32 ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-15 9:41 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 9:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 11:15 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 11:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 12:19 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 13:40 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 14:46 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-06-16 3:44 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 9:35 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 11:58 ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:16 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 13:09 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 13:27 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 14:13 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 14:20 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-16 3:31 ` 贺中坤
2023-06-16 6:40 ` Michal Hocko
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