From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] compiler.h: Introduce ptr_eq() to preserve address dependency
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 11:30:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2bb50d49-f1ce-4282-a03c-f52420c95dd1@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02c63e79-ec8c-4d6a-9fcf-75f0e67ea242@rowland.harvard.edu>
On 2024-09-28 16:49, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 09:51:27AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
[...]
>> +/*
>> + * Compare two addresses while preserving the address dependencies for
>> + * later use of the address. It should be used when comparing an address
>> + * returned by rcu_dereference().
>> + *
>> + * This is needed to prevent the compiler CSE and SSA GVN optimizations
>> + * from replacing the registers holding @a or @b based on their
>> + * equality, which does not preserve address dependencies and allows the
>> + * following misordering speculations:
>> + *
>> + * - If @b is a constant, the compiler can issue the loads which depend
>> + * on @a before loading @a.
>> + * - If @b is a register populated by a prior load, weakly-ordered
>> + * CPUs can speculate loads which depend on @a before loading @a.
>> + *
>> + * The same logic applies with @a and @b swapped.
[...]
>> + *
>> + * Return value: true if pointers are equal, false otherwise.
>> + *
>> + * The compiler barrier() is ineffective at fixing this issue. It does
>> + * not prevent the compiler CSE from losing the address dependency:
>> + *
>> + * int fct_2_volatile_barriers(void)
>> + * {
>> + * int *a, *b;
>> + *
>> + * do {
>> + * a = READ_ONCE(p);
>> + * asm volatile ("" : : : "memory");
>> + * b = READ_ONCE(p);
>> + * } while (a != b);
>> + * asm volatile ("" : : : "memory"); <-- barrier()
>> + * return *b;
>> + * }
>> + *
>> + * With gcc 14.2 (arm64):
>> + *
>> + * fct_2_volatile_barriers:
>> + * adrp x0, .LANCHOR0
>> + * add x0, x0, :lo12:.LANCHOR0
>> + * .L2:
>> + * ldr x1, [x0] <-- x1 populated by first load.
>> + * ldr x2, [x0]
>> + * cmp x1, x2
>> + * bne .L2
>> + * ldr w0, [x1] <-- x1 is used for access which should depend on b.
>> + * ret
>> + *
>> + * On weakly-ordered architectures, this lets CPU speculation use the
>> + * result from the first load to speculate "ldr w0, [x1]" before
>> + * "ldr x2, [x0]".
>> + * Based on the RCU documentation, the control dependency does not
>> + * prevent the CPU from speculating loads.
>
> IMO, this lengthy explanation is not needed in the source code. Just
> refer interested readers to the commit description. You're repeating
> the same text verbatim, after all.
>
> (Or if you firmly believe that this explanation _does_ belong in the
> code, then omit it from the commit description. There's no need to say
> everything twice.)
>
Linus asked for this code/asm example to be in the comment:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wgBgh5U+dyNaN=+XCdcm2OmgSRbcH4Vbtk8i5ZDGwStSA@mail.gmail.com/
I agree that it may be a bit verbose for the comment.
Linus, do you want the explanation wrt compiler barriers not being
enough (with C/asm example) in the comment above ptr_eq() or in
the commit message ?
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-28 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-28 13:51 [PATCH 0/2] Introduce ptr_eq() to preserve address dependency Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 13:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] compiler.h: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 14:49 ` Alan Stern
2024-09-28 15:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2024-09-28 15:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 15:49 ` Alan Stern
2024-09-28 15:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 21:15 ` Alan Stern
2024-09-30 9:42 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 11:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-09-30 12:06 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 13:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-09-28 22:26 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-28 23:55 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-29 0:20 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30 8:57 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 9:15 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30 9:27 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30 9:33 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 10:12 ` Alan Huang
2024-09-30 11:26 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 16:43 ` Alan Stern
2024-09-30 17:05 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-30 18:53 ` Alan Stern
2024-10-01 17:11 ` David Laight
2024-10-01 22:57 ` 'Alan Stern'
2024-10-02 8:13 ` David Laight
2024-10-02 14:14 ` 'Alan Stern'
2024-10-02 15:24 ` David Laight
2024-10-03 1:50 ` 'Alan Stern'
2024-10-03 13:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 17:07 ` David Laight
2024-10-03 18:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-07 11:54 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-10-07 13:18 ` David Laight
2024-10-07 13:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-07 14:59 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2024-09-28 23:24 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-29 10:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 13:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] Documentation: RCU: Refer to ptr_eq() Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-09-28 14:58 ` Alan Stern
2024-09-28 15:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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