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From: Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] Speculative page faults
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 14:26:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d934437-fd56-983c-b4a6-dc265be6f0b9@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKTCnz=0QZ55L5=WbLoCQwB8sXZ_2dgqrBCgdtt=jCqejy=wHA@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/12/2016 13:50, Balbir Singh wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Laurent Dufour
> <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> On 18/11/2016 15:08, Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> This is a port on kernel 4.8 of the work done by Peter Zijlstra to
>>>> handle page fault without holding the mm semaphore.
>>>
>>> One of the big problems with patches like this today is that it is
>>> unclear what mmap_sem actually protects. It's a big lock covering lots
>>> of code. Parts in the core VM, but also do VM callbacks in file systems
>>> and drivers rely on it too?
>>>
>>> IMHO the first step is a comprehensive audit and then writing clear
>>> documentation on what it is supposed to protect. Then based on that such
>>> changes can be properly evaluated.
>>
>> Hi Andi,
>>
>> Sorry for the late answer...
>>
>> I do agree, this semaphore is massively used and it would be nice to
>> have all its usage documented.
>>
>> I'm currently tracking all the mmap_sem use in 4.8 kernel (about 380
>> hits) and I'm trying to identify which it is protecting.
>>
>> In addition, I think it may be nice to limit its usage to code under mm/
>> so that in the future it may be easier to find its usage.
> 
> Is this possible? All sorts of arch's fault
> handling/virtualization/file system and drivers (IO/DRM/) hold
> mmap_sem.

That's a good question ;)

I may be too optimistic / naive, and I'm not confident in the result of
such a goal but I think it may be good to keep such a direction in mind.
It may be possible to limit its usage as it has been done in the fs part.

Laurent.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-01 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-17 12:33 mmap_sem bottleneck Laurent Dufour
2016-10-17 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 14:50   ` Laurent Dufour
2016-10-18 15:01     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-10-18 15:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-18 11:08       ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] Speculative page faults Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08         ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] mm: Dont assume page-table invariance during faults Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08         ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] mm: Prepare for FAULT_FLAG_SPECULATIVE Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08         ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] mm: Introduce pte_spinlock Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08         ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] mm: VMA sequence count Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08         ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] SRCU free VMAs Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08         ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] mm: Provide speculative fault infrastructure Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 11:08         ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] mm,x86: Add speculative pagefault handling Laurent Dufour
2016-11-18 14:08         ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] Speculative page faults Andi Kleen
2016-12-01  8:34           ` Laurent Dufour
2016-12-01 12:50             ` Balbir Singh
2016-12-01 13:26               ` Laurent Dufour [this message]
2016-12-02 14:10         ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-17 12:57 ` mmap_sem bottleneck Michal Hocko
2016-10-20  7:23   ` Laurent Dufour
2016-10-20 10:55     ` Michal Hocko

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