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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Pekka Enberg" <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	"Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Wu Fengguang" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Fr馘駻ic Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Larry Woodman" <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu" <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Matt Mackall" <mpm@selenic.com>,
	"Alexey Dobriyan" <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] proc: export more page flags in /proc/kpageflags
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:09:38 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f11576a0904280409h4dedc04u43a5b68ef492e56d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090428105603.GB25347@elte.hu>

2009/4/28 Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>:
>
> * Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> 2009/4/28 KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>:
>> >> I guess the main question here is whether this approach will scale to
>> >> something like kmalloc() or the page allocator in production
>> >> environments. For any serious workload, the frequency of events is
>> >> going to be pretty high.
>> >
>> > Immediate Values patch series makes zero-overhead to tracepoint
>> > while it's not used.
>> >
>> > So, We have to implement to stop collect stastics way. it restore
>> > zero overhead world.
>> > We don't lose any performance by trace.
>>
>> Sure but I meant the _enabled_ case here. kmalloc() (and the page
>> allocator to some extent) is very performance sensitive in many
>> workloads so you probably don't want to use tracepoints if you're
>> collecting some overall statistics (i.e. tracing all events) like
>> we do here.
>
> That's where 'collect current state' kind of tracepoints would help
> - they could be used even without enabling any of the other
> tracepoints. And they'd still be in a coherent whole with the
> dynamic-events tracepoints.
>
> So i'm not arguing against these techniques at all - and we can move
> on a wide scale from zero-overhead to lots-of-tracing-enabled models
> - what i'm arguing against is the splintering.

umm.
I guess Pekka and you talk about different thing.

if tracepoint is ON, tracepoint makes one function call. but few hot spot don't
have patience to one function call overhead.

scheduler stat and slab stat are one of good example, I think.

I really don't want convert slab_stat and sched_stat to ftrace base stastics.
currently it don't need extra function call and it only touch per-cpu variable.
So, a overhead is extream small.

Unfortunately, tracepoint still don't reach this extream performance.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-28 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-28  1:09 [PATCH 0/5] proc: export more page flags in /proc/kpageflags (take 4) Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28  1:09 ` [PATCH 1/5] pagemap: document clarifications Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28  7:11   ` Tommi Rantala
2009-04-28  1:09 ` [PATCH 2/5] pagemap: documentation 9 more exported page flags Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28  1:09 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: introduce PageHuge() for testing huge/gigantic pages Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28  1:09 ` [PATCH 4/5] proc: kpagecount/kpageflags code cleanup Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28  1:09 ` [PATCH 5/5] proc: export more page flags in /proc/kpageflags Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28  6:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28  7:40     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-28  9:04       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-04-28  9:10         ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-28  9:15           ` Pekka Enberg
2009-04-28  9:15         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28  9:19           ` Pekka Enberg
2009-04-28  9:25             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-04-28  9:36               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28  9:36               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28  9:57                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-04-28 10:10                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-28 10:21                     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-04-28 10:56                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28 11:09                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-04-28 12:42                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28 11:03                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28 17:42                 ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-28  9:29             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28  9:34               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-28  9:38                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28  9:55                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28 10:11                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-28 11:05                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28 11:36                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28 12:17                         ` [rfc] object collection tracing (was: [PATCH 5/5] proc: export more page flags in /proc/kpageflags) Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28 13:31                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-12 13:01                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-05-17 13:36                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 13:55                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-05-17 14:12                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 11:44                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-18 11:47                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28 10:18                   ` [PATCH 5/5] proc: export more page flags in /proc/kpageflags Andi Kleen
2009-04-28  8:33     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28  9:24       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28 18:11       ` Tony Luck
2009-04-28 18:34         ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-28 20:47           ` Tony Luck
2009-04-28 20:54             ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-28 20:59             ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-28 21:17         ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-28 21:49           ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-29  0:02             ` Robin Holt
2009-04-28 17:49   ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-29  8:05     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-29 19:13       ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-30  1:00         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-28 21:32   ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-28 22:46     ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-28 23:02       ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-28 23:31         ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-28 23:42           ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-28 23:55             ` Matt Mackall
2009-04-29  3:33               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-29  2:38     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-29  2:55       ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-29  3:48         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-29  5:09           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-29  4:41       ` Nathan Lynch
2009-04-29  4:50         ` Andrew Morton

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