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h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=JnEtbDY2s0Z1KQgEadlcp/vBHTVt68wCHGEaMq1/2FFqX0xuBEAs8a/DlSrO4nkR/ Fufs4obzoq7Dghqv6bW91bnv6dG3cbJpGNdfhPiZObvKS2tUqYHIHdyUoMYOXT9pRN WPHDwoyjzSN+X4UGxiwjdUkr6o+tZVDSV9Wpu9e5+JHVDnqcNhkyYrxfqBnX16A19p VJ6e4rpBDOaKC1CGexwODX6epOcWKxBp34FA+HC90Ig4PtO5WyV+VmMYdVia22h1HN eJZNGyNU+zSgNx5m0fKyELsPBp4hA4o9rjhhq9TLsmUFBP33HAj0Ll5xsNOyg8g3fL EMJ6AlARU0hhg== From: Pratyush Yadav To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" , Roman Gushchin , ackerleytng@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, chriscli@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, harry@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, liam@infradead.org, muchun.song@linux.dev, shakeelb@meta.com, sj@kernel.org, ziy@nvidia.com, "Lorenzo Stoakes (Arm)" , Mike Rapoport , Vlastimil Babka , Matthew Wilcox Subject: Re: Sashiko change proposal In-Reply-To: <5eae44a6-06c3-445c-9508-58b372c01b2c@kernel.org> (David Hildenbrand's message of "Thu, 15 Oct 2026 10:38:14 +0200") References: <5eae44a6-06c3-445c-9508-58b372c01b2c@kernel.org> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 13:23:41 +0200 Message-ID: <2vxz4ieni4w2.fsf@kernel.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Server: rspam11 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5D2BF1C000B X-Rspam-User: X-Stat-Signature: sp7jqwwodghgu7nqsn6q695w49ic5f4j X-HE-Tag: 1792063427-617978 X-HE-Meta: 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 MGyWyhHJ wZk1Rb2+vNu2p0rhV9Ncd+z4rXQu3iCH2xgKzi9TePBGoULHE1mzhqrRje1u0q12GZXLnN1tSJHHCLlRKOM4WPImjlFFXcNCzIqQi0Fe++DHMxoHyIticeemJdX6AEtXG2WzFAykdiUOuE+OWd129ugH8LotQg5seLm34bXWyGVzZMC/wWLH5ow183kREoTPdAOxChAcJsCwcPu5NYAUe3vQ3gv9/sxnOytDHc71+XHLd7vqtFt4QXGMidpRBj6EAvIn3MbePJfW26QvDPNF4pH0yn4bVLDuRjsEf0KD5ALlZKa6nC8ps82JjfbXEqUuqcxuCIuFn0AUzfQ00RxofMQNVOx9vvG/VTY66JhMsghW/R8fXjs+yHett5mKIvjjSWq0TC8IQ9xlGkG3CGFxVs+KOkk+mcrJ0DHBr+j77NSag3MD/hxUYfXzHFUUgaSZg4qfihR9AukUR8Vw= Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, Oct 15 2026, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: > (CCing all people attending the mm-next call) > > Hi, > > After talking to Roman at MS, he just informed me that sashiko now has a new > feature combination: > - "embargo_hours": hours before review is public + emails sent > - Mechanism for signed-in maintainers to lift embargo immediately > > That solves the key issue I had with sashiko: people/agents re-spinning stuff > too fast before a human at least had the chance to jump in first. If a sender re-spins stuff too fast after a Sashiko review, that's a pretty clear signal that it is an agent. For me, that makes it an easy decision to ignore the sender. I'm curious, why would you want to lose that signal? Is the goal to preserve Sashiko bandwidth and reduce mailing list spam? > > I suggest the following sashiko change for linux-mm: > > diff --git a/projects/linux/mailing_lists.toml b/projects/linux/mailing_lists.toml > index a9198de..ba123da 100644 > --- a/projects/linux/mailing_lists.toml > +++ b/projects/linux/mailing_lists.toml > @@ -46,7 +46,6 @@ ignored_emails = ["patchwork@emeril.freedesktop.org"] > ["linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org"] > ["linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org"] > ["linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"] > -["linux-mm@kvack.org"] > ["linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org"] > ["linux-omap@vger.kernel.org"] > ["linux-pm@vger.kernel.org"] > @@ -315,3 +314,7 @@ reply_to = ["author", "list", "recipients"] > > ["fsverity@lists.linux.dev"] > reply_to = ["author", "list", "recipients"] > + > +["linux-mm@kvack.org"] > +reply_to = ["author", "list", "recipients"] > +embargo_hours = 24 > > > Which means: > - Embargo 24h > - Mails sent to everybody (author, list, CC list) > - No positive-review ("looks great") mails (default) > - No other static email addresses that receive a copy (default) > - No additional ignored author email addresses (default) > > I'd say we start with 24h and see how it goes. > > Thoughts? -- Regards, Pratyush Yadav