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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pavel.tatashin@microsoft.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] mm/page_alloc: Add alloc_contig_pages()
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:38:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <31505b6d-1c09-4fcc-a079-3fbb3c96da48@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191017073413.GC24485@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 17.10.19 09:34, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 17-10-19 09:21:24, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 17.10.19 09:11, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Thu 17-10-19 10:44:41, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> Does this add-on documentation look okay ? Should we also mention about the
>>>> possible reduction in chances of success during pfn block search for the
>>>> non-power-of-two cases as the implicit alignment will probably turn out to
>>>> be bigger than nr_pages itself ?
>>>>
>>>>    * Requested nr_pages may or may not be power of two. The search for suitable
>>>>    * memory range in a zone happens in nr_pages aligned pfn blocks. But in case
>>>>    * when nr_pages is not power of two, an implicitly aligned pfn block search
>>>>    * will happen which in turn will impact allocated memory block's alignment.
>>>>    * In these cases, the size (i.e nr_pages) and the alignment of the allocated
>>>>    * memory will be different. This problem does not exist when nr_pages is power
>>>>    * of two where the size and the alignment of the allocated memory will always
>>>>    * be nr_pages.
>>>
>>> I dunno, it sounds more complicated than really necessary IMHO. Callers
>>> shouldn't really be bothered by memory blocks and other really deep
>>> implementation details.. Wouldn't be the below sufficient?
>>>
>>> The allocated memory is always aligned to a page boundary. If nr_pages
>>> is a power of two then the alignement is guaranteed to be to the given
>>
>> s/alignement/alignment/
>>
>> and "the PFN is guaranteed to be aligned to nr_pages" (the address is
>> aligned to nr_pages*PAGE_SIZE)
> 
> thx for the correction.
> 
>>> nr_pages (e.g. 1GB request would be aligned to 1GB).
>>>
>>
>> I'd probably add "This function will miss allocation opportunities if
>> nr_pages is not a power of two (and the implicit alignment is bogus)."
> 
> This is again an implementation detail and quite a confusing one to
> whoever not familiar with the MM internals. And to be fair even a proper
> alignment doesn't give you any stronger guarantee as long as the
> allocation operates on non movable zones anyway.
> 

To be honest, I'd not suggest to anyone to use this function with 
nr_pages not being a power of two, and I already explained why. I prefer 
to spill that out than having people complain afterwards. Yes it's an 
implementation detail users should be aware of until reworked.

But I think we talked about this here for way too long, so I am fine 
with either.

-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-17  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-16 11:02 [PATCH V2] mm/page_alloc: Add alloc_contig_pages() Anshuman Khandual
2019-10-16 11:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-10-16 11:13   ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-10-16 11:51     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-16 12:29       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-10-16 12:41         ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-16 15:31           ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-10-16 15:45             ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-16 16:48             ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]               ` <c60b9e95-5c6c-fcb2-c8bb-13e7646ba8ea@arm.com>
2019-10-17  7:11                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-17  7:21                   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-10-17  7:34                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-10-17  7:38                       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2019-10-17  0:50 ` Mike Kravetz

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