From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/14] mm: vm_normal_page*() + CoW PFNMAP improvements
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 20:25:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <338bc820-3e43-4da6-b09e-936bf55f657f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e7a6b0de-3f2a-4584-bc77-078569f69f55@redhat.com>
On 17.06.25 18:18, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 17.06.25 17:43, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> RFC because it's based on mm-new where some things might still change
>> around the devmap removal stuff.
>>
>> While removing support for CoW PFNMAPs is a noble goal, I am not even sure
>> if we can remove said support for e.g., /dev/mem that easily.
>>
>> In the end, Cow PFNMAPs are pretty simple: everything is "special" except
>> CoW'ed anon folios, that are "normal".
>>
>> The only complication is: how to identify such pages without pte_special().
>> Because with pte_special(), it's easy.
>>
>> Well, of course, one day all architectures might support pte_special() ...
>> either because we added support for pte_special() or removed support for
>> ... these architectures from Linux.
>>
>> No need to wait for that day. Let's do some cleanups around
>> vm_normal_page()/vm_normal_page_pmd() and handling of the huge zero folio,
>> and remove the "horrible special case to handle copy-on-write behaviour"
>> that does questionable things in remap_pfn_range() with a VMA, simply by
>>
>> ... looking for anonymous folios in CoW PFNMAPs to identify anonymous
>> folios? I know, sounds crazy ;)
>
> I'll mention one corner case that just occurred to me: assume someone
> maps arbitrary /dev/mem that is actually used by the kernel for user
> space, and then some of that memory gets allocated as anonymous memory,
> it would probably be a problem.
>
> Hmm, I'll have to think about that, and the interaction with
> CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM.
The /dev/mem mapping of arbitrary memory is indeed the hard case. To
handle all that, patch #11 is too simplistic.
I have some idea how to make it work, but have to think about a couple
of corner cases.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-17 18:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-17 15:43 [PATCH RFC 00/14] mm: vm_normal_page*() + CoW PFNMAP improvements David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 01/14] mm/memory: drop highest_memmap_pfn sanity check in vm_normal_page() David Hildenbrand
2025-06-20 12:50 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-23 14:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 7:54 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-07-03 12:34 ` Lance Yang
2025-07-03 12:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-03 14:44 ` Lance Yang
2025-07-04 12:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-07 6:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-07-07 13:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-08 2:52 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-07-11 15:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-11 18:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-07-11 18:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 7:55 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-07-03 14:50 ` Lance Yang
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 02/14] mm: drop highest_memmap_pfn David Hildenbrand
2025-06-20 13:04 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-20 18:11 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 03/14] mm: compare pfns only if the entry is present when inserting pfns/pages David Hildenbrand
2025-06-20 13:27 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-23 19:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-20 18:24 ` Pedro Falcato
2025-06-23 19:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 04/14] mm/huge_memory: move more common code into insert_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2025-06-20 14:12 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-07-07 2:48 ` Alistair Popple
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 05/14] mm/huge_memory: move more common code into insert_pud() David Hildenbrand
2025-06-20 14:15 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-07-07 2:51 ` Alistair Popple
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 06/14] mm/huge_memory: support huge zero folio in vmf_insert_folio_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 8:15 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-25 8:17 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-25 8:20 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-25 8:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 07/14] fs/dax: use vmf_insert_folio_pmd() to insert the huge zero folio David Hildenbrand
2025-06-24 1:16 ` Alistair Popple
2025-06-25 9:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-04 13:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-07 11:50 ` Alistair Popple
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 08/14] mm/huge_memory: mark PMD mappings of the huge zero folio special David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 8:32 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-07-14 12:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 09/14] mm/memory: introduce is_huge_zero_pfn() and use it in vm_normal_page_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 8:37 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 10/14] mm/memory: factor out common code from vm_normal_page_*() David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 8:53 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-25 8:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 9:20 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-25 10:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 11/14] mm: remove "horrible special case to handle copy-on-write behaviour" David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 8:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 9:02 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-25 9:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 12/14] mm: drop addr parameter from vm_normal_*_pmd() David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 13/14] mm: introduce and use vm_normal_page_pud() David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 9:22 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-17 15:43 ` [PATCH RFC 14/14] mm: rename vm_ops->find_special_page() to vm_ops->find_normal_page() David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 9:34 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-07-14 14:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 16:18 ` [PATCH RFC 00/14] mm: vm_normal_page*() + CoW PFNMAP improvements David Hildenbrand
2025-06-17 18:25 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-25 8:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 8:55 ` David Hildenbrand
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