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From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 03/17] mm/memcg: add folio-based lruvec live helper
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 15:39:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <342E57E7-9B7F-4193-805E-D1EBB41299FF@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261016-mglru-fg-v4-3-2106750c0bfa@tencent.com>



> On Oct 16, 2026, at 02:15, Kairui Song via B4 Relay <devnull+kasong.tencent.com@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> 
> Add a helper that resolves a stable lruvec for a folio under RCU
> without taking the lruvec lock.  It takes a folio directly so the
> lruvec lookup happens inside the RCU read-side critical section,
> which a lruvec-based interface cannot guarantee.
> 
> No functional change.
> 
> Tested-by: zhaozhengzhuo <zhaozhengzhuo@uniontech.com>
> Signed-off-by: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> ---
> include/linux/memcontrol.h | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 39 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/memcontrol.h b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
> index 74110a324f9e..829ab776ab44 100644
> --- a/include/linux/memcontrol.h
> +++ b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
> @@ -1535,6 +1535,45 @@ static inline void lruvec_lock_irq(struct lruvec *lruvec)
> spin_lock_irq(&lruvec->lru_lock);
> }
> 
> +/**
> + * folio_lruvec_live_get - get a live lruvec for a folio under RCU
> + * @folio: the folio
> + *
> + * Computes @folio's lruvec and walks up to the nearest live ancestor
> + * if the folio's memcg is dying.  Paired with folio_lruvec_live_put().
> + * The result may be stale: RCU keeps it alive but does not pin @folio
> + * to it.  That is fine as the counters are fixed up on reparenting.
> + *
> + * Return: the live lruvec, with rcu_read_lock held.
> + */
> +static inline struct lruvec *folio_lruvec_live_get(struct folio *folio)
> +{
> +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
> + 	struct lruvec *lruvec;
> + 	struct pglist_data *pgdat;
> + 	struct mem_cgroup *memcg;
> +
> + 	rcu_read_lock();
> + 	lruvec = folio_lruvec(folio);
> + 	pgdat = lruvec_pgdat(lruvec);
> + 	memcg = lruvec_memcg(lruvec);
> + 	while (unlikely(memcg && css_is_dying(&memcg->css))) {
> + 		memcg = parent_mem_cgroup(memcg);
> + 		lruvec = mem_cgroup_lruvec(memcg, pgdat);
> + 	}
> + 	return lruvec;

Hi Kairui,

Actually, we don't have any means to guarantee that the memcg
to which the returned lruvec belongs will not become dying
after the return, right?

> +#else
> + 	return folio_lruvec(folio);

Then, I'm wondering why folio_lruvec() doesn't apply to the
memcg scenario.

Internally, folio_lruvec() obtains the memcg through
obj_cgroup_memcg(). So when the memcg becomes dying, it should
be reparented to the parent memcg within a short time.

Likewise, folio_lruvec() may also return an lruvec whose memcg
may also be in a short-lived dying state.

Since the results of the two are similar, why not just use
folio_lruvec() directly? Or is there something I misunderstood?

Thanks,
Muchun


> +#endif
> +}
> +
> +static inline void folio_lruvec_live_put(struct lruvec *lruvec)
> +{
> +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
> + 	rcu_read_unlock();
> +#endif
> +}
> +
> static inline struct lruvec *lruvec_live_lock_irq(struct lruvec *lruvec)
> {
> #ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
> 
> -- 
> 2.56.0
> 
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-16  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-15 18:15 [PATCH v4 00/17] mm/mglru: frequency guided promotion (MGLRU-FG) and flag cleanup Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] mm/memcontrol: allow update of LRU statistic without holding LRU lock Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] mm/mglru: make generation page counters atomic Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] mm/memcg: add folio-based lruvec live helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 19:11   ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-16  6:15     ` Kairui Song
2026-10-16  7:39   ` Muchun Song [this message]
2026-10-16  7:54     ` Kairui Song
2026-10-16  9:09       ` Muchun Song
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] mm/mglru: frequency guided workingset promotion (MGLRU-FG) Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] mm/mglru: make folio lru referenced times count a generic API Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] mm/mglru: move add/del LRU size accounting out of lru_gen_update_size() Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] mm/mglru, gup: mark folios referenced via a fast helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] mm/mglru, smaps: convert to LRU refs based operations for MGLRU Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] mm/damon: " Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] mm/khugepaged: " Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] mm/madvise: adapt for " Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] mm/huge_memory: mark folio as accessed more accurately on split Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] mm/mglru: folio LRU refs based active/inactive number accounting Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] mm/mglru: reparent folios from all generations Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] mm/mglru: make folio_inc_lru_refs lruvec lockless Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] mm/mglru: make folio_test_workingset() work based on folio LRU refs Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] Documentation/mm: multi-gen LRU: update for frequency guided promotion Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-16  8:42 ` [PATCH v4 00/17] mm/mglru: frequency guided promotion (MGLRU-FG) and flag cleanup Barry Song (Xiaomi)

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