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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	will@kernel.org, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, steven.price@arm.com, gshan@redhat.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	yang@os.amperecomputing.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	anshuman.khandual@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: Allow lockless kernel pagetable walking
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 14:27:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <359668fb-df61-4135-89ee-2675a06a5c1b@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <970e1b84-7f47-4a51-ad99-4df9026b8f7d@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 03:24:16PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 10.06.25 14:07, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > OK so I think the best solution here is to just update check_ops_valid(), which
> > was kind of sucky anyway (we check everywhere but walk_page_range_mm() to
> > enforce the install pte thing).
> >
> > Let's do something like:
> >
> > #define OPS_MAY_INSTALL_PTE	(1<<0)
> > #define OPS_MAY_AVOID_LOCK	(1<<1)
> >
> > and update check_ops_valid() to take a flags or maybe 'capabilities' field.
> >
> > Then check based on this e.g.:
> >
> > if (ops->install_pte && !(capabilities & OPS_MAY_INSTALL_PTE))
> > 	return false;
> >
> > if (ops->walk_lock == PGWALK_NOLOCK && !(capabilities & OPS_MAY_AVOID_LOCK))
> > 	return false;
> >
>
> Hm. I mean, we really only want to allow this lockless check for
> walk_kernel_page_table_range(), right?
>
> Having a walk_kernel_page_table_range_lockeless() might (or might not) be
> better, to really only special-case this specific path.

Agree completely, Dev - let's definitely do this.

>
> So, I am wondering if we should further start splitting the
> kernel-page-table walker up from the mm walker, at least on the "entry"
> function for now.

How do you mean?

>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-10 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-10 11:43 [PATCH v2 0/2] Enable permission change on arm64 kernel block mappings Dev Jain
2025-06-10 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: Allow lockless kernel pagetable walking Dev Jain
2025-06-10 12:07   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-10 12:40     ` Dev Jain
2025-06-10 12:57       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-11  3:43         ` Dev Jain
2025-06-10 13:24     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-10 13:25       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-10 13:27       ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-06-10 13:31         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-10 13:35           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-10 13:44             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11  3:45         ` Dev Jain
2025-06-10 11:44 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] arm64: pageattr: Use walk_page_range_novma() to change memory permissions Dev Jain
2025-06-10 13:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-10 14:41   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-11  4:01     ` Dev Jain

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