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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam10 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 00B90100002 X-Stat-Signature: enejoncncia6qgkni957piuqkb9aqg97 X-HE-Tag: 1778237920-840937 X-HE-Meta: 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 5zAHOgy3 9ASon3V+y5PL5p7ke9VQ2aDXbMOpFyXpwTz4GibmjFHIYn8krzy1GicCOy1klsowZ3+xDU6heseTrpfwkGxxNcPeGkybqJR09HkOBZQLU2TpjsWflMH5ndLM0ZPIdyGp8C8Pa3rQ3yyPiaXJwqzEVejEEq0kfDGmMjcu9uz++PfH4DRhYd9Bq7QS5E8NDoEPQL6ni1lO0NcK7gErPCfGvimkVaqZHXiAwR9zW5Fa1gindt38d7guHWFd+kxOyBUqAagPt1BdGA/lXSRkfaRejrw0T0g== Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 5/8/26 12:12, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: > On 4/29/26 20:19, Dave Hansen wrote: >> From: Dave Hansen >> >> The per-VMA locks have been around for several years. They've had some >> bugs worked out of them and have seen quite wide use. However, they >> are still only available when architectures explicitly enable them. >> Remove the conditional compilation around the per-VMA locks, making >> them available on all architectures and configs. > > Yes, we should really just make it now just a fixed part of the kernel design. > >> >> The approach up to now seemed to be to add ARCH_SUPPORTS_PER_VMA_LOCK >> when the architecture started using per-VMA locks in the fault >> handler. But, contrary to the naming, the Kconfig option does not >> really indicate whether the architecture supports per-VMA locks or >> not. It is more of a marker for whether the architecture is likely to >> benefit from per-VMA locks. >> >> To me, the most important thing side-effect of universal availability >> is letting per-VMA locks be used in SMP=n configs. This lets us use >> per-VMA locking in all x86 code without fallbacks. >> >> Overall, this just generally makes the kernel simpler. Just look at >> the diffstat. It also opens the door to users that want to use the >> per-VMA locks in common code. Doing *that* can bring additional >> simplifications. >> >> The downside of this is adding some fields to vm_area_struct and >> mm_struct. > > I'd assume most distributions would already enable it. > > mm_struct is very likely not a problem. > > On x86-64, the smallest size for vma_area_struct possible (make allnoconfig) > seems to be 68bytes. The largest size (make allyesconfig) with lockdep and all > that is 256bytes. Without lockdep we are at 192 bytes: independent of per-VMA locks. > > I'd expect that on most 64bit configs we usually end up with 192 bytes today. > > Given that our slab sizes are ...32/64/96/128/192/..., I guess we'd have to be > lucky to jump between sizes on most configs. As Vlastimil reminded me, the have separate slab caches, so they are better packed. So I don't think a small increase there would really be a problem. -- Cheers, David