From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
"Ritesh Harjani (IBM)" <ritesh.list@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm/memory_hotplug: bound offline retry loops with a configurable limit
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 16:12:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <38eb2487-3ce0-4d02-a7b4-d5b81e249ef4@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1260a5746d88eff27565d506f69cf74bd766abc1.camel@linux.ibm.com>
>> Usually that happens when we race offlining (has_unmovable_pages()) with page
>> allocation, and failing on unmovable pages is actually perfectly fine.
>>
>> But for ZONE_MOVABLE we should keep retrying, because some pages might only look
>> temporarily unmovable.
>>
>> So that would be the low hanging fruit: on !ZONE_MOVABLE, fail faster.
>
> This handles scenarios like Case 1. A page can still be allocated from the range after
> isolation and become slab. When test_pages_isolated() fails, we can re-check that
> page with page_is_unmovable() and return -EBUSY if it's unmovable. I'm currently testing this approach
> will send a patch for review.
Yes, and that we should handle. It's a known race and we should just fail faster
in that case. !ZONE_MOVABLE.
>
> Case 2 is different. The page is on the LRU, so it is considered movable and the fast-fail condition abovewon't be triggered. Instead page migration keeps failing, causing
> offline_pages() to retry indefinitely
> and can hang forever. This could be handled with a timeout or a user
> policy in the application that
> initiated the hotplug operation (signals). However, for the kworker
> paths that trigger memory
> offlining (ACPI remove, etc.), should this instead be handled by the
> driver rather than relying on
> offline_pages(), similar to virtio-mem?
If it's on ZONE_MOVABLE, then we should figure out why it keeps failing forever
and try fixing that instead.
Above you write: "I can also trigger it in a VM by hot-adding a DIMM, pinning a
page and removing the DIMM."
Anybody who intends to take a longterm pin must be using FOLL_LONGTERM, which
will take care of exactly this condition: migrating memory out of ZONE_MOVABLE
first.
So which interface does you reproducer use to trigger pinning?
--
Cheers,
David
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-30 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-22 7:48 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm/memory_hotplug: bound offline retry loops with a configurable limit Aboorva Devarajan
2026-07-22 7:48 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] " Aboorva Devarajan
2026-07-22 7:48 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] selftests/mm: add pc-dimm ACPI eject selftest for offline_migrate_max_passes Aboorva Devarajan
2026-07-22 12:08 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm/memory_hotplug: bound offline retry loops with a configurable limit David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-22 12:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-29 2:11 ` Aboorva Devarajan
2026-07-30 14:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
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