From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
bala.seshasayee@linux.intel.com, chrisl@kernel.org,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, kanchana.p.sridhar@intel.com,
kasong@tencent.com, nphamcs@gmail.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
senozhatsky@chromium.org, terrelln@fb.com,
usamaarif642@gmail.com, v-songbaohua@oppo.com,
wajdi.k.feghali@intel.com, willy@infradead.org,
ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com, yosryahmed@google.com,
baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: map zero-filled pages to zero_pfn while doing swap-in
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 09:50:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41e33113-1ac4-48fa-8eac-0f90ba5bc864@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4w9kvJcT2fw=cjLMwN_-+Q2pLaJ6qHhmh3MGvPNrGPxWQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 12.12.24 09:46, Barry Song wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:29 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 08:37:11PM +1300, Barry Song wrote:
>>> From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
>>>
>>> While developing the zeromap series, Usama observed that certain
>>> workloads may contain over 10% zero-filled pages. This may present
>>> an opportunity to save memory by mapping zero-filled pages to zero_pfn
>>> in do_swap_page(). If a write occurs later, do_wp_page() can
>>> allocate a new page using the Copy-on-Write mechanism.
>>
>> Shouldn't this be done during, or rather instead of swap out instead?
>> Swapping all zero pages out just to optimize the in-memory
>> representation on seems rather backwards.
>
> I’m having trouble understanding your point—it seems like you might
> not have fully read the code. :-)
>
> The situation is as follows: for a zero-filled page, we are currently
> allocating a new
> page unconditionally. By mapping this zero-filled page to zero_pfn, we could
> save the memory used by this page.
>
> We don't need to allocate the memory until the page is written(which may never
> happen).
I think what Christoph means is that you would determine that at PTE
unmap time, and directly place the zero page in there. So there would be
no need to have the page fault at all.
I suspect at PTE unmap time might be problematic, because we might still
have other (i.e., GUP) references modifying that page, and we can only
rely on the page content being stable after we flushed the TLB as well.
(I recall some deferred flushing optimizations)
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-12 8:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-12 7:37 [PATCH RFC] mm: map zero-filled pages to zero_pfn while doing swap-in Barry Song
2024-12-12 8:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 8:46 ` Barry Song
2024-12-12 8:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 8:54 ` Barry Song
2024-12-12 8:50 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-12-12 9:16 ` Barry Song
2024-12-12 16:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-12-13 1:47 ` Barry Song
2024-12-13 2:27 ` Barry Song
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