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From: Justin Iurman <justin.iurman@uliege.be>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,  davem@davemloft.net, dsahern@kernel.org,
	yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org, cl@linux.com,
	penberg@kernel.org,  rientjes@google.com,
	iamjoonsoo kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	 akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
	 Roopa Prabhu <roopa@nvidia.com>,
	 Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@nvidia.com>,
	 Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	 Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
	 Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	 Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 2/2] ipv6: ioam: Support for Buffer occupancy data field
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 16:49:53 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <433890308.243090207.1640188193310.JavaMail.zimbra@uliege.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211221172337.kvqlkf3jqx2uqclm@skbuf>

On Dec 21, 2021, at 6:23 PM, Vladimir Oltean olteanv@gmail.com wrote:
> I know nothing about OAM and therefore did not want to comment, but I

NP, all opinions are more than welcome.

> think the point raised about the metric you propose being irrelevant in
> the context of offloaded data paths is quite important. The "devlink-sb"
> proposal was dismissed very quickly on grounds of requiring sleepable
> context, is that a deal breaker, and if it is, why? Not only offloaded

Can't sleep in the datapath.

> interfaces like switches/routers can report buffer occupancy. Plain NICs
> also have buffer pools, DMA RX/TX rings, MAC FIFOs, etc, that could
> indicate congestion or otherwise high load. Maybe slab information could

Indeed. Is there any API to retrieve such metric? Anyway, that would
probably involve (again) sleepable context.

> be relevant, for lack of a better option, on virtual interfaces, but if
> they're physical, why limit ourselves on reporting that? The IETF draft
> you present says "This field indicates the current status of the
> occupancy of the common buffer pool used by a set of queues." It appears
> to me that we could try to get a reporting that has better granularity
> (per interface, per queue) than just something based on
> skbuff_head_cache. What if someone will need that finer granularity in
> the future.

I think we all agree (Jakub, you, and I) on this point. The thing is,
what could be a better solution to have something generic that makes
sense, instead of just nothing? Is it actually feasible at all?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-22 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-06 21:17 [RFC net-next 0/2] IOAM queue depth and buffer occupancy Justin Iurman
2021-12-06 21:17 ` [RFC net-next 1/2] ipv6: ioam: Support for Queue depth data field Justin Iurman
2021-12-06 21:17 ` [RFC net-next 2/2] ipv6: ioam: Support for Buffer occupancy " Justin Iurman
2021-12-07  0:16   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-07 11:54     ` Justin Iurman
2021-12-07 15:50       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-07 16:35         ` Justin Iurman
2021-12-07 17:07           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-07 18:05             ` Justin Iurman
2021-12-08 22:18               ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-09 14:10                 ` Justin Iurman
2021-12-10  0:38                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-10 12:57                     ` Justin Iurman
2021-12-21 17:06                     ` Justin Iurman
2021-12-21 17:23                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-21 20:13                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-22 16:13                           ` Justin Iurman
2021-12-22 15:49                         ` Justin Iurman [this message]
2021-12-07 16:37   ` David Ahern
2021-12-07 16:54     ` Justin Iurman

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