From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
Qi Zheng <arch0.zheng@gmail.com>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Teng Hu <huteng.ht@bytedance.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: page_alloc: don't allocate page from memoryless nodes
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 12:29:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4386151c-0328-d207-9a71-933ef61817f9@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dbfbd982-27f3-0d72-49e0-d3dd5fe636a8@bytedance.com>
On 14.02.23 12:26, Qi Zheng wrote:
>
>
> On 2023/2/14 19:22, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 14.02.23 11:26, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2023/2/14 17:43, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 10:17:03AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>> On 14.02.23 09:42, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/13/23 12:00, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2023/2/13 16:47, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/12/23 12:03, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In x86, numa_register_memblks() is only interested in
>>>>>>>>> those nodes which have enough memory, so it skips over
>>>>>>>>> all nodes with memory below NODE_MIN_SIZE (treated as
>>>>>>>>> a memoryless node). Later on, we will initialize these
>>>>>>>>> memoryless nodes (allocate pgdat in free_area_init()
>>>>>>>>> and build zonelist etc), and will online these nodes
>>>>>>>>> in init_cpu_to_node() and init_gi_nodes().
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After boot, these memoryless nodes are in N_ONLINE
>>>>>>>>> state but not in N_MEMORY state. But we can still allocate
>>>>>>>>> pages from these memoryless nodes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In SLUB, we only process nodes in the N_MEMORY state,
>>>>>>>>> such as allocating their struct kmem_cache_node. So if
>>>>>>>>> we allocate a page from the memoryless node above to
>>>>>>>>> SLUB, the struct kmem_cache_node of the node corresponding
>>>>>>>>> to this page is NULL, which will cause panic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For example, if we use qemu to start a two numa node kernel,
>>>>>>>>> one of the nodes has 2M memory (less than NODE_MIN_SIZE),
>>>>>>>>> and the other node has 2G, then we will encounter the
>>>>>>>>> following panic:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.149844] BUG: kernel NULL pointer dereference, address:
>>>>>>>>> 0000000000000000
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.150783] #PF: supervisor write access in kernel mode
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.151488] #PF: error_code(0x0002) - not-present page
>>>>>>>>> <...>
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.156056] RIP: 0010:_raw_spin_lock_irqsave+0x22/0x40
>>>>>>>>> <...>
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.169781] Call Trace:
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.170159] <TASK>
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.170448] deactivate_slab+0x187/0x3c0
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.171031] ? bootstrap+0x1b/0x10e
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.171559] ? preempt_count_sub+0x9/0xa0
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.172145] ? kmem_cache_alloc+0x12c/0x440
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.172735] ? bootstrap+0x1b/0x10e
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.173236] bootstrap+0x6b/0x10e
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.173720] kmem_cache_init+0x10a/0x188
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.174240] start_kernel+0x415/0x6ac
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.174738] secondary_startup_64_no_verify+0xe0/0xeb
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.175417] </TASK>
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.175713] Modules linked in:
>>>>>>>>> [ 0.176117] CR2: 0000000000000000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In addition, we can also encountered this panic in the actual
>>>>>>>>> production environment. We set up a 2c2g container with two
>>>>>>>>> numa nodes, and then reserved 128M for kdump, and then we
>>>>>>>>> can encountered the above panic in the kdump kernel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To fix it, we can filter memoryless nodes when allocating
>>>>>>>>> pages.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>>>>>>>>> Reported-by: Teng Hu <huteng.ht@bytedance.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well AFAIK the key mechanism to only allocate from "good" nodes
>>>>>>>> is the
>>>>>>>> zonelist, we shouldn't need to start putting extra checks like
>>>>>>>> this. So it
>>>>>>>> seems to me that the code building the zonelists should take the
>>>>>>>> NODE_MIN_SIZE constraint in mind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed. How about the following patch:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +Cc also David, forgot earlier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks good to me, at least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @@ -6382,8 +6378,11 @@ int find_next_best_node(int node, nodemask_t
>>>>>>> *used_node_mask)
>>>>>>> int min_val = INT_MAX;
>>>>>>> int best_node = NUMA_NO_NODE;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - /* Use the local node if we haven't already */
>>>>>>> - if (!node_isset(node, *used_node_mask)) {
>>>>>>> + /*
>>>>>>> + * Use the local node if we haven't already. But for
>>>>>>> memoryless
>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>> + * node, we should skip it and fallback to other nodes.
>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>> + if (!node_isset(node, *used_node_mask) && node_state(node,
>>>>>>> N_MEMORY)) {
>>>>>>> node_set(node, *used_node_mask);
>>>>>>> return node;
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For memoryless node, we skip it and fallback to other nodes when
>>>>>>> build its zonelists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Say we have node0 and node1, and node0 is memoryless, then:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [ 0.102400] Fallback order for Node 0: 1
>>>>>>> [ 0.102931] Fallback order for Node 1: 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this way, we will not allocate pages from memoryless node0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In offline_pages(), we'll first build_all_zonelists() to then
>>>>> node_states_clear_node()->node_clear_state(node, N_MEMORY);
>>>>>
>>>>> So at least on the offlining path, we wouldn't detect it properly yet I
>>>>> assume, and build a zonelist that contains a now-memory-less node?
>>>>
>>>> Another question is what happens if a new memory is plugged into a node
>>>> that had < NODE_MIN_SIZE of memory and after hotplug it stops being
>>>> "memoryless".
>>>
>>> When going online and offline a memory will re-call
>>> build_all_zonelists() to re-establish the zonelists (the zonelist of
>>> itself and other nodes). So it can stop being "memoryless"
>>> automatically.
>>>
>>> But in online_pages(), did not see the check of < NODE_MIN_SIZE.
>>
>> TBH, this is the first time I hear of NODE_MIN_SIZE and it seems to be a
>> pretty x86 specific thing.
>>
>> Are we sure we want to get NODE_MIN_SIZE involved?
>
> Maybe add an arch_xxx() to handle it?
I still haven't figured out what we want to achieve with NODE_MIN_SIZE
at all. It smells like an arch-specific hack looking at
"Don't confuse VM with a node that doesn't have the minimum amount of
memory"
Why shouldn't mm-core deal with that?
I'd appreciate an explanation of the bigger picture, what the issue is
and what the approach to solve it is (including memory onlining/offlining).
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-14 11:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-12 11:03 [PATCH] mm: page_alloc: don't allocate page from memoryless nodes Qi Zheng
2023-02-13 8:47 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-02-13 11:00 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-14 8:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-02-14 9:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 9:43 ` Mike Rapoport
[not found] ` <67240e55-af49-f20a-2b4b-b7d574cd910d@gmail.com>
2023-02-14 11:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 11:26 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-14 11:29 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-02-14 11:38 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-14 11:44 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-14 11:48 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 11:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 12:09 ` [External] " Qi Zheng
2023-02-14 13:38 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-15 9:30 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-15 9:41 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-15 10:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-15 10:19 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-15 9:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-15 10:04 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-15 10:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-15 16:55 ` Michal Hocko
2023-10-16 4:09 ` Qi Zheng
2023-10-17 6:12 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-14 12:33 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-14 12:46 ` Mike Rapoport
[not found] ` <Y+tQDN/TmdTPFFR6@kernel.org>
2023-02-14 10:33 ` Qi Zheng
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