From: Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
Cc: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
Aneesh Kumar K V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>, Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Tim C Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
Brice Goglin <brice.goglin@gmail.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Hesham Almatary <hesham.almatary@huawei.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Jagdish Gediya <jvgediya@linux.ibm.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces (v3)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 09:57:20 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4456dc2520cf2d9368c320eb628e0043d59dfb2f.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220530135043.00001e88@Huawei.com>
On Mon, 2022-05-30 at 13:50 +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Sun, 29 May 2022 12:31:30 +0800
> Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2022-05-27 at 09:30 -0700, Wei Xu wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 6:41 AM Aneesh Kumar K V
> > > <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 5/27/22 2:52 AM, Wei Xu wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The order of memory tiers is determined by their rank values, not by
> > > > > their memtier device names.
> > > > >
> > > > > - /sys/devices/system/memtier/possible
> > > > >
> > > > > Format: ordered list of "memtier(rank)"
> > > > > Example: 0(64), 1(128), 2(192)
> > > > >
> > > > > Read-only. When read, list all available memory tiers and their
> > > > > associated ranks, ordered by the rank values (from the highest
> > > > > tier to the lowest tier).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did we discuss the need for this? I haven't done this in the patch
> > > > series I sent across.
> > >
> > > The "possible" file is only needed if we decide to hide the
> > > directories of memtiers that have no nodes. We can remove this
> > > interface and always show all memtier directories to keep things
> > > simpler.
> >
> > When discussed offline, Tim Chen pointed out that with the proposed
> > interface, it's unconvenient to know the position of a given memory tier
> > in all memory tiers. We must sort "rank" of all memory tiers to know
> > that. "possible" file can be used for that. Although "possible" file
> > can be generated with a shell script, it's more convenient to show it
> > directly.
> >
> > Another way to address the issue is to add memtierN/pos for each memory
> > tier as suggested by Tim. It's readonly and will show position of
> > "memtierN" in all memory tiers. It's even better to show the relative
> > postion to the default memory tier (DRAM with CPU). That is, the
> > position of DRAM memory tier is 0.
> >
> > Unlike memory tier device ID or rank, the position is relative and
> > dynamic.
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm unconvinced. This is better done with a shell script than
> by adding ABI we'll have to live with for ever..
>
> I'm no good at shell scripting but this does the job
> grep "" tier*/rank | sort -n -k 2 -t :
>
> tier2/rank:50
> tier0/rank:100
> tier1/rank:200
> tier3/rank:240
>
> I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will do it in a simpler fashion still.
I am OK to leave this to be added later if we found that it's useful.
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
> Jonathan
>
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Huang, Ying
> >
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-31 1:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-26 21:22 RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces (v3) Wei Xu
2022-05-27 2:58 ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 14:05 ` Hesham Almatary
2022-05-27 16:25 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-27 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] mm/demotion: Memory tiers and demotion Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/7] mm/demotion: Add support for explicit memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 13:59 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-02 6:07 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 2:49 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 3:56 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 5:33 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 6:01 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 6:27 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-06 7:53 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 8:01 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 8:52 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 9:02 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 1:24 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 7:16 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 8:24 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 8:27 ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/7] mm/demotion: Expose per node memory tier to sysfs Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 14:15 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-03 8:40 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 14:59 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-06 16:01 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 16:16 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-06 16:39 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 17:46 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-07 14:32 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-08 7:18 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 8:25 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 8:29 ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/7] mm/demotion: Build demotion targets based on explicit memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 14:31 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-30 3:35 ` [mm/demotion] 8ebccd60c2: BUG:sleeping_function_called_from_invalid_context_at_mm/compaction.c kernel test robot
2022-05-27 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/7] mm/demotion/dax/kmem: Set node's memory tier to MEMORY_TIER_PMEM Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-01 6:29 ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-01 13:49 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-02 6:36 ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-03 9:04 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 10:11 ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-06 10:16 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 11:54 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-06 12:09 ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-06 13:00 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-27 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/7] mm/demotion: Add support to associate rank with memory tier Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 14:45 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-27 15:45 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-30 12:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-02 6:41 ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/7] mm/demotion: Add support for removing node from demotion memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-02 6:43 ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/7] mm/demotion: Demote pages according to allocation fallback order Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 15:03 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-02 7:35 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-03 15:09 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 0:43 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 4:07 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 5:26 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 6:21 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-06 7:42 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 8:02 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 8:06 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 17:07 ` Yang Shi
2022-05-27 13:40 ` RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces (v3) Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-27 16:30 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-29 4:31 ` Ying Huang
2022-05-30 12:50 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-31 1:57 ` Ying Huang [this message]
2022-06-07 19:25 ` Tim Chen
2022-06-08 4:41 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
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