From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Lee Schermerhorn <lee.schermerhorn@hp.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mel@csn.ul.ie,
clameter@sgi.com, balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, andrea@suse.de,
a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, eric.whitney@hp.com, npiggin@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 10/14] Reclaim Scalability: track anon_vma "related vmas"
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:52:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46EDEBDA.4030906@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070914205506.6536.5170.sendpatchset@localhost>
Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
> PATCH/RFC 10/14 Reclaim Scalability: track anon_vma "related vmas"
>
> Against: 2.6.23-rc4-mm1
>
> When a single parent forks a large number [thousands, 10s of thousands]
> of children, the anon_vma list of related vmas becomes very long. In
> reclaim, this list must be traversed twice--once in page_referenced_anon()
> and once in try_to_unmap_anon()--under a spin lock to reclaim the page.
> Multiple cpus can end up spinning behind the same anon_vma spinlock and
> traversing the lists. This patch, part of the "noreclaim" series, treats
> anon pages with list lengths longer than a tunable threshold as non-
> reclaimable.
I do not agree with this approach and think it is somewhat
dangerous.
If the threshold is set too high, this code has no effect.
If the threshold is too low, or an unexpectedly high number
of processes get forked (hey, now we *need* to swap something
out), the system goes out of memory.
I would rather we reduce the amount of work we need to do in
selecting what to page out in a different way, eg. by doing
SEQ replacement for anonymous pages.
I will cook up a patch implementing that other approach in a
way that it will fit into your patch series, since the rest
of the series (so far) looks good to me.
*takes out the chainsaw to cut up his patch*
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-17 2:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-14 20:53 [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/14] Reclaim Scalability: Convert anon_vma lock to read/write lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 11:02 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 2:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 14:57 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 15:37 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/14] Reclaim Scalability: convert inode i_mmap_lock to reader/writer lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 12:53 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-20 1:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-20 14:10 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 14:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/14] Reclaim Scalability: move isolate_lru_page() to vmscan.c Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15 1:55 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:11 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 9:20 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:19 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/14] Reclaim Scalability: Define page_anon() function Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-15 2:00 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 13:19 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 1:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 2:27 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 2:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:04 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 19:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 0:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 16:58 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 0:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/14] Reclaim Scalability: Use an indexed array for LRU variables Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 13:40 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-17 14:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 14:39 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:58 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:12 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 19:36 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:36 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 20:21 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 21:01 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/14] Reclaim Scalability: "No Reclaim LRU Infrastructure" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 22:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 15:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-18 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 19:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 11:11 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-19 18:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 6:00 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-19 14:47 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 7/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable page statistics Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 1:56 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 8/14] Reclaim Scalability: Ram Disk Pages are non-reclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 1:57 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:40 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 9/14] Reclaim Scalability: SHM_LOCKED pages are nonreclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:18 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 10/14] Reclaim Scalability: track anon_vma "related vmas" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:52 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2007-09-17 15:52 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 11/14] Reclaim Scalability: swap backed pages are nonreclaimable when no swap space available Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:53 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 17:46 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:01 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-19 14:55 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 2:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:47 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 12/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable Mlock'ed pages Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 13/14] Reclaim Scalability: Handle Mlock'ed pages during map/unmap and truncate Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 14/14] Reclaim Scalability: cull non-reclaimable anon pages in fault path Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:11 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-14 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-14 22:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15 0:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-17 6:44 ` Balbir Singh
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