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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Ujwal Kundur <ujwal.kundur@gmail.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] mm: Introduce vm_uffd_ops API
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 19:25:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <471e95bc-ea2d-4c37-aad6-0062b4457054@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aFmM4XXTC6gEmdR-@x1.local>

>>>
>>> How about an updated commit like this?
>>>
>>>     Currently, most of the userfaultfd features are implemented directly in the
>>>     core mm.  It will invoke VMA specific functions whenever necessary.  So far
>>>     it is fine because it almost only interacts with shmem and hugetlbfs.
>>>
>>>     This patch introduces a generic userfaultfd API for vm_operations_struct,
>>>     so that any type of file (including kernel modules that can be compiled
>>>     separately from the kernel core) can support userfaults without modifying
>>>     the core files.
>>
>> .... is it really "any file" ? I doubt it, but you likely have a better idea
>> on how it all could just work with "any file".
>>
>>>
>>>     After this API applied, if a module wants to support userfaultfd, the
>>>     module should only need to touch its own file and properly define
>>>     vm_uffd_ops, instead of changing anything in core mm.
>>>
>>>     ...
>>
>> Talking about files and modules is still confusing I'm afraid. It's really a
>> special-purpose file (really, not any ordinary files on ordinary
>> filesystems), no?
> 
> One major reason I wanted to avoid the term "in-memory" is that we already
> support most of the files on WP_ASYNC, so emphasizing on in-memory might be
> misleading, even though WP_ASYNC isn't much taken into the picture of the
> vm_uffd_ops being proposed.

Oh, yes, agreed on WP_ASYNC. But they would not be using the vma_ops 
thingy, right?

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-23 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-20 19:03 [PATCH 0/4] mm/userfaultfd: modulize memory types Peter Xu
2025-06-20 19:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: Introduce vm_uffd_ops API Peter Xu
2025-06-22  7:28   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-23 13:36     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-23  8:25   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-23 13:59     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-23 16:50       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-23 17:20         ` Peter Xu
2025-06-23 17:25           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-23 17:56             ` Peter Xu
2025-06-20 19:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm/shmem: Support " Peter Xu
2025-06-20 19:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm/hugetlb: " Peter Xu
2025-06-20 19:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: Apply vm_uffd_ops API to core mm Peter Xu
2025-06-22 19:09   ` kernel test robot
2025-06-23 18:12     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-25 20:31   ` James Houghton
2025-06-25 21:21     ` Peter Xu
2025-06-25 21:52       ` James Houghton
2025-06-25 16:56 ` [PATCH 0/4] mm/userfaultfd: modulize memory types Nikita Kalyazin
2025-06-25 20:17   ` Peter Xu
2025-06-26 16:09     ` Nikita Kalyazin
2025-06-27 13:51       ` Peter Xu
2025-06-27 16:59         ` Nikita Kalyazin
2025-06-27 18:46           ` Peter Xu

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