From: Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>
To: Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>
Cc: carsteno@de.ibm.com, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch 1/4] include: add callbacks to toggle reference counting for VM_MIXEDMAP pages
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:45:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47872CA7.40802@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6934efce0801101201t72e9b7c4ra88d6fda0f08b1b2@mail.gmail.com>
Jared Hulbert wrote:
>> I think you're looking for
>> pfn_has_struct_page_entry_for_it(), and that's different from the
>> original meaning described above.
>
> Yes. That's what I'm looking for.
>
> Carsten,
>
> I think I get the problem now. You've been saying over and over, I
> just didn't hear it. We are not using the same assumptions for what
> VM_MIXEDMAP means.
>
> Look's like today most architectures just use pfn_valid() to see if a
> pfn is in a valid RAM segment. The assumption used in
> vm_normal_page() is that valid_RAM == has_page_struct. That's fine by
> me for VM_MIXEDMAP because I'm only assuming 2 states a page can be
> in: (1) page struct RAM (2) pfn only Flash memory ioremap()'ed in.
> You are wanting to add a third: (3) valid RAM, pfn only mapping with
> the ability to add a page struct when needed.
>
> Is this right?
About right. There are a few differences between "valid ram" and our
DCSS segments, but yes. Our segments are not present at system
startup, and can be "loaded" afterwards by hypercall. Thus, they're
not detected and initialized as regular memory.
We have the option to add struct page entries for them. In case of
using the segment for xip, we don't want struct page entries and
rather prefer VM_MIXEDMAP, but with regular memory (with struct page)
being used after cow.
The segments can either be exclusive for one Linux image, or shared
between multiple. And they can be read-only or read+write. A memory
store to a read-only segment would fail. For xip, we either use
"shared, read-only" or "exclusive, read+write". I think in your
categories we're like
(3) valid RAM that may be read-only, pfn only mapping, no struct page
>> Jared, did you try this on arm?
>
> No. I'm not sure where we stand. Shall I bother or do I wait for the
> next patch?
I guess we should wait for Nick's patch. He has already decided not to
go down this path.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-11 8:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-14 13:38 [rfc][patch 1/2] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP mappings Nick Piggin
2007-12-14 13:41 ` [rfc][patch 2/2] xip: support non-struct page memory Nick Piggin
2007-12-14 13:46 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-15 1:07 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-15 1:17 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-15 6:47 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-19 14:04 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 9:23 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-21 0:40 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-20 13:53 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 14:33 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 14:50 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-20 17:24 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-21 0:12 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-12-21 0:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 9:56 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 9:49 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 0:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:02 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:17 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:31 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 0:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:05 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:20 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 10:35 ` Carsten Otte
2007-12-21 10:47 ` Nick Piggin
2007-12-21 19:29 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-07 4:43 ` [rfc][patch] mm: use a pte bit to flag normal pages Nick Piggin
2008-01-07 10:30 ` Russell King
2008-01-07 11:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-07 18:49 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-07 19:45 ` Russell King
2008-01-07 22:52 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-08 2:37 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 2:49 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 3:31 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 3:52 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 10:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-01-08 10:52 ` Russell King
2008-01-08 13:54 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-01-08 14:08 ` Russell King
2008-01-10 13:33 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 23:18 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 9:35 ` [rfc][patch 0/4] VM_MIXEDMAP patchset with s390 backend Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 10:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 11:34 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 11:55 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-08 12:03 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 13:56 ` Jörn Engel
2008-01-08 14:51 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 18:09 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-08 22:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 0/4] VM_MIXEDMAP patchset with s390 backend v2 Carsten Otte
[not found] ` <1199891032.28689.9.camel@cotte.boeblingen.de.ibm.com>
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 1/4] include: add callbacks to toggle reference counting for VM_MIXEDMAP pages Carsten Otte, Carsten Otte
2008-01-09 17:31 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 18:17 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-10 7:59 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 20:01 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-11 8:45 ` Carsten Otte [this message]
2008-01-13 2:44 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-14 11:36 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-16 4:04 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-15 13:05 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-16 4:22 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-16 14:29 ` [rft] updated xip patch rollup Nick Piggin
2008-01-17 10:24 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 20:23 ` [rfc][patch 1/4] include: add callbacks to toggle reference counting for VM_MIXEDMAP pages Jared Hulbert
2008-01-11 8:32 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-10 0:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-10 8:06 ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 2/4] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP Carsten Otte, Jared Hulbert, Carsten Otte
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 3/4] Convert XIP to support non-struct page backed memory Carsten Otte, Nick Piggin
2008-01-09 15:14 ` [rfc][patch 4/4] s390: remove struct page entries for DCSS memory segments Carsten Otte, Carsten Otte
[not found] ` <1199784196.25114.11.camel@cotte.boeblingen.de.ibm.com>
2008-01-08 9:35 ` [rfc][patch 1/4] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP Carsten Otte, Jared Hulbert, Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 9:35 ` [rfc][patch 2/4] xip: support non-struct page memory Carsten Otte, Nick Piggin, Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 9:36 ` [rfc][patch 3/4] s390: remove sturct page entries for z/VM DCSS memory segments Carsten Otte
2008-01-08 9:36 ` [rfc][patch 4/4] s390: mixedmap_refcount_pfn implementation using list walk Carsten Otte
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