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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Document huge memory/cache overhead of memory controller in Kconfig
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:36:10 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BD06C2.5030602@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200802211535.38932.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>

Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 February 2008 23:52, Balbir Singh wrote:
>> Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Document huge memory/cache overhead of memory controller in Kconfig
>>>
>>> I was a little surprised that 2.6.25-rc* increased struct page for the
>>> memory controller.  At least on many x86-64 machines it will not fit into
>>> a single cache line now anymore and also costs considerable amounts of
>>> RAM.
>> The size of struct page earlier was 56 bytes on x86_64 and with 64 bytes it
>> won't fit into the cacheline anymore? Please also look at
>> http://lwn.net/Articles/234974/
> 
> BTW. We'll probably want to increase the width of some counters
> in struct page at some point for 64-bit, so then it really will
> go over with the memory controller!
> 

Hmm...

> Actually, an external data structure is a pretty good idea. We
> could probably do it easily with a radix tree (pfn->memory
> controller). And that might be a better option for distros.
> 

I'll put in my long list of TODOs. I started looking at it yesterday again and
here are my early thoughts

1. We could create something similar to mem_map, we would need to handle 4
different ways of creating mem_map.
2. On x86 with 64 GB ram, if we decided to use vmalloc space, we would need 64
MB of vmalloc'ed memory

I have not explored your latest suggestion of pfn <-> memory controller mapping
yet. I'll explore it and see how that goes.

-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-21  5:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-20 12:23 [PATCH] Document huge memory/cache overhead of memory controller in Kconfig Andi Kleen
2008-02-20 12:52 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-20 15:00   ` John Stoffel
2008-02-20 15:20     ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-20 15:49       ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-02-20 16:10         ` John Stoffel
2008-02-20 16:15           ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-20 17:00             ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21  6:49             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-21  6:52               ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-20 18:19         ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-20 18:28           ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-02-20 18:51             ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-21 14:46               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-21 14:52                 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 23:55                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-22  3:09                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-02-20 16:15       ` John Stoffel
2008-02-20 16:54       ` Ray Lee
2008-02-20 16:57     ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21  4:35   ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-21  5:06     ` Balbir Singh [this message]
     [not found]       ` <200802211622.51751.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
2008-02-21  5:46         ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 10:44       ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22  4:41         ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-22  9:51           ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 12:14             ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-22 13:00               ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 15:47                 ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-21 10:37     ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21 11:03       ` Balbir Singh
2008-02-22  6:59         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-22  7:06           ` Balbir Singh

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