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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] cgroup swap subsystem
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:38:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47CFAD69.6000909@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080306173347.f6c5c84c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:20:17 +0300
> Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org> wrote:
> 
>> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>>> On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:14:12 +0300
>>> Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org> wrote:
>>>>> Strongly agree.  Nobody's interested in swap as such: it's just
>>>>> secondary memory, where RAM is primary memory.  People want to
>>>>> control memory as the sum of the two; and I expect they may also
>>>>> want to control primary memory (all that the current memcg does)
>>>>> within that.  I wonder if such nesting of limits fits easily
>>>>> into cgroups or will be problematic.
>>>> This nesting would affect the res_couter abstraction, not the
>>>> cgroup infrastructure. Current design of resource counters doesn't
>>>> allow for such thing, but the extension is a couple-of-lines patch :)
>>>>
>>> IMHO, keeping res_counter simple is better.
>>>
>>> Is this kind of new entry in mem_cgroup not good ?
>>> ==
>>> struct mem_cgroup {
>>> 	...
>>> 	struct res_counter	memory_limit.
>>> 	struct res_counter	swap_limit.
>>> 	..
>>> }
>> I meant the same thing actually. By "nesting would affect" I
>> meant, that we might want to make res_counters hierarchical.
>>
>> That would kill two birds with one stone - we will make a true
>> hierarchical memory accounting and let charging of two counters
>> with one call.
> 
> Hierarchical res_counter makes sense.
> Making it in simple/reasonable style will be our challenge. 

I have this in my TODO list. Since this is not so urgent, then if you
don't mind I can prepare the patches next week - after I set the git 
tree up. This change doesn't seem that big.

> Thanks,
> -Kame
> 
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-06  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-05  5:59 [RFC/PATCH] cgroup swap subsystem Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-05  6:36 ` Paul Menage
2008-03-06 12:20   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-05  6:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-05 21:51   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-03-06 11:45   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-06 12:25     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-06 12:56   ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-03-07  8:22     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-12 22:57     ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-05  7:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-05  7:28 ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-07  4:23   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-05  8:33 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-05  8:51   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-05 14:07   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-03-05 14:14     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-06  0:33       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-06  0:35         ` Paul Menage
2008-03-06  8:20         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-06  8:33           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-06  8:38             ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2008-03-06  8:48               ` [Devel] " Paul Menage
2008-03-06  8:50                 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-06  8:52                   ` Paul Menage

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