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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	shaggy@austin.ibm.com, axboe@kernel.dk, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2]: introduce fast_gup
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:26:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <480C9619.2050201@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1208781013.7115.173.camel@twins>

Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 15:00 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>> Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>     
>>> Finally, I don't think that comment is correct in the first place. It's 
>>> not that simple. The thing is, even *with* the memory barrier in place, we 
>>> may have:
>>>
>>> 	CPU#1			CPU#2
>>> 	=====			=====
>>>
>>> 	fast_gup:
>>> 	 - read low word
>>>
>>> 				native_set_pte_present:
>>> 				 - set low word to 0
>>> 				 - set high word to new value
>>>
>>> 	 - read high word
>>>
>>> 				- set low word to new value
>>>
>>> and so you read a low word that is associated with a *different* high 
>>> word! Notice?
>>>
>>> So trivial memory ordering is _not_ enough.
>>>
>>> So I think the code literally needs to be something like this
>>>
>>> 	#ifdef CONFIG_X86_PAE
>>>
>>> 	static inline pte_t native_get_pte(pte_t *ptep)
>>> 	{
>>> 		pte_t pte;
>>>
>>> 	retry:
>>> 		pte.pte_low = ptep->pte_low;
>>> 		smp_rmb();
>>> 		pte.pte_high = ptep->pte_high;
>>> 		smp_rmb();
>>> 		if (unlikely(pte.pte_low != ptep->pte_low)
>>> 			goto retry;
>>> 		return pte;
>>> 	}
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> I think this is still broken.  Suppose that after reading pte_high 
>> native_set_pte() is called again on another cpu, changing pte_low back 
>> to the original value (but with a different pte_high).  You now have 
>> pte_low from second native_set_pte() but pte_high from the first 
>> native_set_pte().
>>     
>
> I think the idea was that for user pages we only use set_pte_present()
> which does the low=0 thing first.
>   

Doesn't matter.  The second native_set_pte() (or set_pte_present()) 
executes atomically:


	fast_gup:
	 - read low word (l0)

				native_set_pte_present:
				 - set low word to 0
				 - set high word to new value (h1)
	 			 - set low word to new value (l1)
 

	 - read high word (h1)

				native_set_pte_present:
				 - set low word to 0
				 - set high word to new value (h2)
	 			 - set low word to new value (l2)

   	 - re-read low word (l2)


If l2 happens to be equal to l0, then the check succeeds and we have a 
splintered pte h1:l0.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-21 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-28  2:54 [patch 0/2]: lockless get_user_pages patchset Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  2:55 ` [patch 1/2]: x86: implement pte_special Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:23   ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:31     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:44       ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:04         ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:09           ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:15             ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:16               ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:19                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:17               ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:00 ` [patch 2/2]: introduce fast_gup Nick Piggin
2008-03-28 10:01   ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-17 15:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 15:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 16:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 16:18         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 16:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 16:40             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 17:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 18:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22  3:14                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-18  6:31                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-04-18 14:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-18  9:58         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-21 12:00       ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-21 12:30         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-21 13:26           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-04-21 14:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-22  3:23               ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-22  7:19                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-22  8:07                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22  9:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-22  9:46     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 18:33       ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-05-15  1:13         ` Nick Piggin

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