From: Matyas Hurtik <matyas.hurtik@cdn77.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Daniel Sedlak <daniel.sedlak@cdn77.com>
Cc: "Kuniyuki Iwashima" <kuniyu@google.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Neal Cardwell" <ncardwell@google.com>,
"David Ahern" <dsahern@kernel.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Yosry Ahmed" <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] memcg: expose socket memory pressure in a cgroup
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:27:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4937aca8-8ebb-47d5-986f-7bb27ddbdaba@cdn77.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <qsncixzj7s7jd7f3l2erjjs7cx3fanmlbkh4auaapsvon45rx3@62o2nqwrb43e>
On 8/7/25 10:52 PM, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> We definitely don't need a global lock. For memcg->net_pressure_lock, we
> need to be very clear why we need this lock. Basically we are doing RMW
> on memcg->socket_pressure and we want known 'consistently' how much
> further we are pushing memcg->socket_pressure. In other words the
> consistent value of diff. The lock is one way to get that consistent
> diff. We can also play some atomic ops trick to get the consistent value
> without lock but I don't think that complexity is worth it.
Hello,
I tried implementing the second option, making the diff consistent using
atomics.
Would something like this work?
if (level > VMPRESSURE_LOW) {
unsigned long new_socket_pressure;
unsigned long old_socket_pressure;
unsigned long duration_to_add;
/*
* Let the socket buffer allocator know that
* we are having trouble reclaiming LRU pages.
*
* For hysteresis keep the pressure state
* asserted for a second in which subsequent
* pressure events can occur.
*/
new_socket_pressure = jiffies + HZ;
old_socket_pressure = atomic_long_xchg(
&memcg->socket_pressure, new_socket_pressure);
duration_to_add = jiffies_to_usecs(
min(new_socket_pressure - old_socket_pressure, HZ));
do {
atomic_long_add(duration_to_add, &memcg->socket_pressure_duration);
} while ((memcg = parent_mem_cgroup(memcg)));
}
memcg->socket_pressure would need to be changed into atomic_long_t,
but we avoid adding the memcg->net_pressure_lock.
> We don't need memcg->net_pressure_lock's protection for
> sk_pressure_duration of the memcg and its ancestors if additions to
> sk_pressure_duration are atomic.
With regards to the hierarchical propagation I noticed during testing that
vmpressure() was sometimes called with memcgs, created for systemd oneshot
services, that were at that time no longer present in the /sys/fs/cgroup
tree.
This then made their parent counters a lot larger than just sum of the
subtree
plus value of self. Would this behavior be correct?
Thanks,
Matyas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-14 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-05 6:44 [PATCH v4] memcg: expose socket memory pressure in a cgroup Daniel Sedlak
2025-08-05 15:54 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-05 23:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-06 19:20 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-06 21:54 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-06 22:01 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-06 23:34 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-06 23:40 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-06 23:51 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-07 10:22 ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-08-07 20:52 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-14 16:27 ` Matyas Hurtik [this message]
2025-08-14 17:31 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-14 17:43 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-07 10:42 ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-08-09 18:32 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-11 21:31 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-13 12:03 ` Michal Koutný
2025-08-13 18:03 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-20 16:51 ` Matyas Hurtik
2025-08-20 19:03 ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-20 19:31 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-20 20:37 ` Matyas Hurtik
2025-08-20 21:34 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-21 18:44 ` Matyas Hurtik
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