From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, avi@redhat.com, riel@redhat.com,
jeremy@goop.org, mtosatti@redhat.com, hugh@veritas.com,
corbet@lwn.net, yaniv@redhat.com, dmonakhov@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver.
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:36:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D424AF.3090806@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090402012215.GE1117@x200.localdomain>
Chris Wright wrote:
> * Anthony Liguori (anthony@codemonkey.ws) wrote:
>
>> The ioctl() interface is quite bad for what you're doing. You're
>> telling the kernel extra information about a VA range in userspace.
>> That's what madvise is for. You're tweaking simple read/write values of
>> kernel infrastructure. That's what sysfs is for.
>>
>
> I agree re: sysfs (brought it up myself before). As far as madvise vs.
> ioctl, the one thing that comes from the ioctl is fops->release to
> automagically unregister memory on exit.
This is precisely why ioctl() is a bad interface. fops->release isn't
tied to the process but rather tied to the open file. The file can stay
open long after the process exits either by a fork()'d child inheriting
the file descriptor or through something more sinister like SCM_RIGHTS.
In fact, a common mistake is to leak file descriptors by not closing
them when exec()'ing a process. Instead of just delaying a close, if
you rely on this behavior to unregister memory regions, you could
potentially have badness happen in the kernel if ksm attempted to access
an invalid memory region.
So you absolutely have to automatically unregister regions in something
other than the fops->release handler based on something that's tied to
the pid's life cycle.
Using an interface like madvise() would force the issue to be dealt with
properly from the start :-)
I'm often afraid of what sort of bugs we'd uncover in kvm if we passed
the fds around via SCM_RIGHTS and started poking around :-/
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> This needs to be handled
> anyway if some -p pid is added to add a process after it's running,
> so less weight there.
>
> thanks,
> -chris
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-02 2:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-30 23:59 [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] MMU_NOTIFIERS: add set_pte_at_notify() Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` [PATCH 2/4] add page_wrprotect(): write protecting page Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is pointing to Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` [PATCH 4/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 2:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 12:24 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 13:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 14:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 14:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 15:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 15:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 15:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 16:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 16:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 17:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-01 22:54 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 0:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 0:48 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 1:22 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 2:36 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-04-02 5:31 ` [PATCH 5/4] update ksm userspace interfaces Chris Wright
2009-04-02 13:32 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 15:20 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:56 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:55 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-03 10:16 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-03 10:49 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-03 11:08 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-03 16:22 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 14:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02 15:12 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02 5:48 ` [PATCH 4/4 alternative userspace] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Chris Wright
2009-04-02 5:57 ` Bert Wesarg
2009-04-02 5:59 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 6:00 ` Bert Wesarg
2009-04-02 7:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 7:24 ` [PATCH 4/4] " Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 9:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02 11:23 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 2:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-31 12:21 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 23:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-01 17:28 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 20:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 1:42 ` [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 12:33 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 19:22 ` Jesper Juhl
2009-04-02 19:38 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 19:39 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 19:49 ` Jesper Juhl
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-04 14:35 [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux v2 Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35 ` [PATCH 1/4] MMU_NOTIFIERS: add set_pte_at_notify() Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35 ` [PATCH 2/4] add page_wrprotect(): write protecting page Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35 ` [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is pointing to Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35 ` [PATCH 4/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Izik Eidus
2009-04-06 9:13 ` Andrey Panin
2009-04-06 10:58 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-09 3:58 [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux v3 Izik Eidus
2009-04-09 3:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] MMU_NOTIFIERS: add set_pte_at_notify() Izik Eidus
2009-04-09 3:58 ` [PATCH 2/4] add page_wrprotect(): write protecting page Izik Eidus
2009-04-09 3:58 ` [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is pointing to Izik Eidus
2009-04-09 3:58 ` [PATCH 4/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Izik Eidus
2009-04-14 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 22:37 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-15 22:50 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 23:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-16 0:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-16 0:57 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-16 11:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-16 16:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-18 14:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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