From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: lwoodman@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] vmscan: limit concurrent reclaimers in shrink_zone
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:29:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B25BF39.5020401@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28c262360912132019u7c0b8efpf89b11a6cbe512b3@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/13/2009 11:19 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Rik van Riel<riel@redhat.com> wrote:
>> A simpler solution may be to use sleep_on_interruptible, and
>> simply have the process continue into shrink_zone() if it
>> gets a signal.
>
> I thought it but I was not sure.
> Okay. If it is possible, It' more simple.
> Could you repost patch with that?
Sure, not a problem.
> +The default value is 8.
> +
> +=============================================================
>
>
> I like this. but why do you select default value as constant 8?
> Do you have any reason?
>
> I think it would be better to select the number proportional to NR_CPU.
> ex) NR_CPU * 2 or something.
>
> Otherwise looks good to me.
>
>
> Pessimistically, I assume that the pageout code spends maybe
> 10% of its time on locking (we have seen far, far worse than
> this with thousands of processes in the pageout code). That
> means if we have more than 10 threads in the pageout code,
> we could end up spending more time on locking and less doing
> real work - slowing everybody down.
>
> I rounded it down to the closest power of 2 to come up with
> an arbitrary number that looked safe :)
> ===
>
> We discussed above.
> I want to add your desciption into changelog.
The thing is, I don't know if 8 is the best value for
the default, which is a reason I made it tunable in
the first place.
There are a lot of assumptions in my reasoning, and
they may be wrong. I suspect that documenting something
wrong is probably worse than letting people wonder out
the default (and maybe finding a better one).
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-14 4:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-11 21:46 [PATCH v2] vmscan: limit concurrent reclaimers in shrink_zone Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 0:14 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 4:09 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 4:19 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 4:29 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2009-12-14 5:00 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 12:23 ` [cleanup][PATCH 1/8] vmscan: Make shrink_zone_begin/end helper function KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:34 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 22:39 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/8] Mark sleep_on as deprecated KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 13:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-14 16:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-14 14:34 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 22:44 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:29 ` [PATCH 3/8] Don't use sleep_on() KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:35 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 22:46 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:30 ` [PATCH 4/8] Use prepare_to_wait_exclusive() instead prepare_to_wait() KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:33 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-15 0:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-15 5:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-12-15 8:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-12-15 14:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-12-15 14:58 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-15 18:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-12-15 18:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-12-15 19:33 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-16 0:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-16 2:44 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-16 5:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-12-14 23:03 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:30 ` [PATCH 5/8] Use io_schedule() instead schedule() KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:37 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 23:46 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-15 0:56 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-15 1:13 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:31 ` [PATCH 6/8] Stop reclaim quickly when the task reclaimed enough lots pages KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:45 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 23:51 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-15 0:11 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-15 0:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 12:32 ` [PATCH 7/8] Use TASK_KILLABLE instead TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:47 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 23:52 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:32 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm: Give up allocation if the task have fatal signal KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:48 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 23:54 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-15 0:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-15 1:03 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-15 1:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 12:40 ` [PATCH v2] vmscan: limit concurrent reclaimers in shrink_zone KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 17:08 ` Larry Woodman
2009-12-15 0:49 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
[not found] ` <20091217193818.9FA9.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
2009-12-17 12:23 ` FWD: " Larry Woodman
2009-12-17 14:43 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-17 19:55 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-17 21:05 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-12-17 22:52 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-18 16:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-18 17:43 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-18 10:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-18 14:09 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-18 13:38 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-18 14:12 ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-18 14:13 ` Avi Kivity
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