From: Christian Ehrhardt <ehrhardt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] page-allocator: Under memory pressure, wait on pressure to relieve instead of congestion
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:42:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B966C7A.5040706@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100309150332.GP8653@laptop>
Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 02:17:13PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:35:13AM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:48:21AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
>>>> Under heavy memory pressure, the page allocator may call congestion_wait()
>>>> to wait for IO congestion to clear or a timeout. This is not as sensible
>>>> a choice as it first appears. There is no guarantee that BLK_RW_ASYNC is
>>>> even congested as the pressure could have been due to a large number of
>>>> SYNC reads and the allocator waits for the entire timeout, possibly uselessly.
>>>>
>>>> At the point of congestion_wait(), the allocator is struggling to get the
>>>> pages it needs and it should back off. This patch puts the allocator to sleep
>>>> on a zone->pressure_wq for either a timeout or until a direct reclaimer or
>>>> kswapd brings the zone over the low watermark, whichever happens first.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
>>>> ---
>>>> include/linux/mmzone.h | 3 ++
>>>> mm/internal.h | 4 +++
>>>> mm/mmzone.c | 47 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> mm/page_alloc.c | 50 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>>>> mm/vmscan.c | 2 +
>>>> 5 files changed, 101 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/mmzone.h b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>> index 30fe668..72465c1 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
[...]
>>>> +{
>>>> + /* If no process is waiting, nothing to do */
>>>> + if (!waitqueue_active(zone->pressure_wq))
>>>> + return;
>>>> +
>>>> + /* Check if the high watermark is ok for order 0 */
>>>> + if (zone_watermark_ok(zone, 0, low_wmark_pages(zone), 0, 0))
>>>> + wake_up_interruptible(zone->pressure_wq);
>>>> +}
>>> If you were to do this under the zone lock (in your subsequent patch),
>>> then it could avoid races. I would suggest doing it all as a single
>>> patch and not doing the pressure checks in reclaim at all.
>>>
>> That is reasonable. I've already dropped the checks in reclaim because as you
>> say, if the free path check is cheap enough, it's also sufficient. Checking
>> in the reclaim paths as well is redundant.
>>
>> I'll move the call to check_zone_pressure() within the zone lock to avoid
>> races.
>>
Mel, we talked about a thundering herd issue that might come up here in
very constraint cases.
So wherever you end up putting that wake_up call, how about being extra
paranoid about a thundering herd flagging them WQ_FLAG_EXCLUSIVE and
waking them with something like that:
wake_up_interruptible_nr(zone->pressure_wq, #nrofpagesabovewatermark#);
That should be an easy to calculate sane max of waiters to wake up.
On the other hand it might be over-engineered and it implies the need to
reconsider when it would be best to wake up the rest.
Get me right - I don't really have a hard requirement or need for that,
I just wanted to mention it early on to hear your opinions about it.
looking forward to test the v2 patch series, adapted to all the good
stuff already discussed.
--
Grusse / regards, Christian Ehrhardt
IBM Linux Technology Center, System z Linux Performance
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-08 11:48 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Avoid the use of congestion_wait under zone pressure Mel Gorman
2010-03-08 11:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] page-allocator: Under memory pressure, wait on pressure to relieve instead of congestion Mel Gorman
2010-03-09 13:35 ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-09 14:17 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-09 15:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-09 15:42 ` Christian Ehrhardt [this message]
2010-03-09 18:22 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-10 2:38 ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-09 17:35 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-10 2:35 ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-09 15:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-09 15:56 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-03-09 16:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-09 17:01 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-09 17:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-09 17:30 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-08 11:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] page-allocator: Check zone pressure when batch of pages are freed Mel Gorman
2010-03-09 9:53 ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-09 10:08 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-09 10:23 ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-09 10:36 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-09 11:11 ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-09 11:29 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-08 11:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Put kswapd to sleep on its own waitqueue, not congestion Mel Gorman
2010-03-09 10:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-09 10:21 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-09 10:32 ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-11 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Avoid the use of congestion_wait under zone pressure Andrew Morton
2010-03-12 6:39 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-03-12 7:05 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-12 10:47 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-12 12:15 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-03-12 14:37 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-15 12:29 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-15 14:45 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-03-15 12:34 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-03-15 20:09 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-16 10:11 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-18 17:42 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-22 23:50 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 14:35 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-03-23 21:35 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2010-03-24 11:48 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 12:56 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2010-03-23 22:29 ` Rik van Riel
2010-03-24 14:50 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-19 12:22 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-19 21:44 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-20 7:20 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-20 8:54 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-20 15:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-20 17:22 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-21 4:23 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-21 7:35 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-21 13:19 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-22 6:21 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-26 10:59 ` Subject: [PATCH][RFC] mm: make working set portion that is protected tunable v2 Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-26 11:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-26 12:43 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-26 14:20 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-27 14:00 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2010-04-21 9:03 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Avoid the use of congestion_wait under zone pressure Johannes Weiner
2010-04-21 13:20 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-20 14:40 ` Rik van Riel
2010-03-24 2:38 ` Greg KH
2010-03-24 11:49 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 13:13 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-03-12 9:09 ` Mel Gorman
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