From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Chris Webb <chris@arachsys.com>,
balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
KVM development list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:16:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B9F5A96.1040705@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9F5556.7060103@redhat.com>
On 03/16/2010 11:54 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>
>> Is this with qcow2, raw file, or direct volume access?
>>
>> I can understand it for qcow2, but for direct volume access this
>> shouldn't happen. The guest schedules as many writes as it can,
>> followed by a sync. The host (and disk) can then reschedule them
>> whether they are in the writeback cache or in the block layer, and must
>> sync in the same way once completed.
>>
>> Perhaps what we need is bdrv_aio_submit() which can take a number of
>> requests. For direct volume access, this allows easier reordering
>> (io_submit() should plug the queues before it starts processing and
>> unplug them when done, though I don't see the code for this?). For
>> qcow2, we can coalesce metadata updates for multiple requests into one
>> RMW (for example, a sequential write split into multiple 64K-256K write
>> requests).
>>
> We already do merge sequential writes back into one larger request. So
> this is in fact a case that wouldn't benefit from such changes.
I'm not happy with that. It increases overall latency. With qcow2 it's
fine, but I'd let requests to raw volumes flow unaltered.
> It may
> help for other cases. But even if it did, coalescing metadata writes in
> qcow2 sounds like a good way to mess up, so I'd stay with doing it only
> for the data itself.
>
I don't see why.
> Apart from that, wouldn't your points apply to writeback as well?
>
They do, but for writeback the host kernel already does all the
coalescing/merging/blah for us.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-16 10:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-15 7:22 [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 7:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 8:07 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 8:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 9:17 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 9:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 10:45 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 18:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16 9:05 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-19 7:23 ` Dave Hansen
2010-03-15 20:23 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-15 23:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16 0:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 1:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16 8:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 15:14 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 15:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-17 16:27 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:04 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-22 21:10 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:27 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 17:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 19:11 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-16 3:16 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 9:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 9:54 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-03-16 10:16 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-03-16 10:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 10:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 11:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 14:27 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 8:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 15:24 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:47 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 15:46 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-03-16 3:21 ` Balbir Singh
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=4B9F5A96.1040705@redhat.com \
--to=avi@redhat.com \
--cc=balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=chris@arachsys.com \
--cc=hch@lst.de \
--cc=kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com \
--cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=kwolf@redhat.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=riel@surriel.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).